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"Don't know which one had the greater effect, I did both at once. But I could feel the 4*4 breathing blocking a physical anxiety response in the middle of one h

"Don't know which one had the greater effect, I did both at once. But I could feel the 4*4 breathing blocking a physical anxiety response in the middle of one happening. " To me it feels the other way. I feel the breathing opens up something that allows me to release the anxiety. In the end it's probably the same just from a different viewpoint.

graeme 8y ago
I think so. Release could well be what happened. Basically before the anxierty happened liked this: 1. Minor negative stimulus appears. I could feel the body react. 2. When I inhaled, and not before, my neck would feel some tension. This would persist a bit. I had ried breath holding before, but that just delayed the stress feeling. Instead, I: 1. Held breath and counted to 4 2. Exhaled sharply 3. Inhaled a bit, and counted to four 4. Repeat if necessary Thr new elements were counting, and the exhale before inhale. Followeed byna knowledge that I had two more steps to do: inhaling and counting. Rather than merely an uncontrolledminhalation and hope of no stress. Interestingly, I rarely need the breathing now. My bosy changed its reaction to the minor stresssors. Maybe I’m just less on edge and less reactive, and the breathing helped my body come down from that reactive state.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  Love the algorithmic reduction here
  - graeme 8y ago
    Oh that's just how I think haha. Hadn't even noticed. What is it, breaking it down to steps?
bitexploder 8y ago
I think the experience of it is subjective based how you perceive fight/flight (anxiety). What we know is this pushes some buttons in the nervous system, and I think how we perceive that can vary a lot, but the objective result is similar for a lot of people. What is cool about this technique is you can’t cheat it. It will cause the reactions due to the way breathing works in the body and the automatic responses wired to that.

graeme 8y ago

I think so. Release could well be what happened. Basically before the anxierty happened liked this: 1. Minor negative stimulus appears. I could feel the body react. 2. When I inhaled, and not before, my neck would feel some tension. This would persist a bit. I had ried breath holding before, but that just delayed the stress feeling. Instead, I: 1. Held breath and counted to 4 2. Exhaled sharply 3. Inhaled a bit, and counted to four 4. Repeat if necessary Thr new elements were counting, and the exhale before inhale. Followeed byna knowledge that I had two more steps to do: inhaling and counting. Rather than merely an uncontrolledminhalation and hope of no stress. Interestingly, I rarely need the breathing now. My bosy changed its reaction to the minor stresssors. Maybe I’m just less on edge and less reactive, and the breathing helped my body come down from that reactive state.

erikpukinskis 8y ago
Love the algorithmic reduction here
- graeme 8y ago
  Oh that's just how I think haha. Hadn't even noticed. What is it, breaking it down to steps?

bitexploder 8y ago

I think the experience of it is subjective based how you perceive fight/flight (anxiety). What we know is this pushes some buttons in the nervous system, and I think how we perceive that can vary a lot, but the objective result is similar for a lot of people. What is cool about this technique is you can’t cheat it. It will cause the reactions due to the way breathing works in the body and the automatic responses wired to that.