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By the way I think it's possible to leave facebook while keeping messenger. At this point, I feel like most of the people I know who are on fb use it or messeng
by adamnemecek 8y ago
By the way I think it's possible to leave facebook while keeping messenger. At this point, I feel like most of the people I know who are on fb use it or messenger rather than anything else.
- hnuser355 8y agoIt is! That’s exactly what I’ve done. Who knows if this will continue indefinitely though.
- prolikewh0a 8y agoAre you really leaving Facebook at that point though? They're still collecting every bit of text you send to serve you ads and sell your data. If your friends will only message you on FB messenger, are they really that great of friends?
- codyb 8y agoI think messages aren't mined for advertising at this point. Doesn't mean that won't change, but their current policy states it isn't happening now. Secret messages can't be harvested, but aren't portable between devices.
- AndrewKemendo 8y agoI don't understand this disconnect. Messenger = Facebook. If you are deciding to "leave Facebook" as protest to the fact that: Facebook has played a significant role in undermining democratic values around the world then that means you need to leave Messenger, Instagram, Whatsapp, tbh, Facebook (product), Oculus and every other Facebook owned property. I don't see how people aren't making this connection.
- adamnemecek 8y agoYou misunderstand. I understand that they are kind of the same thing, however when people leave fb proper, they are more likely to leave it altogether later.
- AndrewKemendo 8y agoIs your point that you need to wean people off of Facebook owned properties? Because that wasn't what the post seemed to say. If you want to leave FB on moral principals, then dropping all of their products is the only thing that would be impactful. Otherwise you're just shifting where you give them revenue.
- adamnemecek 8y agoI prefer to encourage people and celebrate progress. Messenger gathers less info on you I believe but I might be wrong.
- dleslie 8y agoI've been encouraging friends to use SMS instead.
- codyb 8y agoFB messenger is probably more secure than SMS, especially if you use secret conversations (although you lose portability of conversations this way). Signal and iMessage are my favorites personally.
- dleslie 8y agoMy security conscious friends already use encrypted channels of communication. It's the ad-adverse and creepy-suggestions-wary that benefit from switching to SMS. SMS doesn't require an app that requests invasive access to information.
- icebraining 8y agoSMS gives the involved operator(s) access to the content. Depending where you are, those may be pretty creepy themselves.
- dleslie 8y agoSure, and depending on where you are there may be strong regulation on what they can do with that data.
- prolikewh0a 8y agoI somehow managed to get my _entire_ friend circle and family on Signal. I feel like I should get some kind of bronze life achievement unlock :D.
- dleslie 8y agoHa, I tried and failed to do so. The nice thing about SMS is that it doesn't require an app, or even a smart phone.