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I guess we should outlaw or regulate every labor saving device that produces any form of annoyance, no matter how fleeting. What a bout loud circular saws, conc

I guess we should outlaw or regulate every labor saving device that produces any form of annoyance, no matter how fleeting. What a bout loud circular saws, concrete saws, jackhammers, vibratory packers, etc. etc. These are indespensable labor saving devices. If you have a neighbor overusing them then that is an issue to take up with them directly. I don’t see why we should regulate things out of existence because some asshole doesn’t know how to use it appropriately.

JadeNB 8y ago
> If you have a neighbor overusing them then that is an issue to take up with them directly. To be sure, a problem between one individual and another is probably a matter for individual rectification. However, as the other comments here indicate, this is a systemic, not an individual, problem; and it is for precisely such problems that regulation is meant. (Regulation also answers the question: whose problem is it? If my neighbour wants to use a leaf blower, and I think it's too loud, then we might find a compromise. If some external company wants to use a leaf blower, then good luck negotiating a compromise with them; they have no sense of neighbourliness or community to which to appeal. Regulations provide a well defined sense of who is (legally) right, and so a replacement for that missing sense of community.)
colanderman 8y ago
> loud circular saws, concrete saws, jackhammers, vibratory packers I couldn't tell you the last time I ever saw or heard a neighbor of mine operating one of these. Leaf blower on the other hand? Yesterday.
brokenmachine 8y ago
Found the selfish neighbor...
brokenmachine 8y ago
>I guess we should outlaw or regulate every labor saving device that produces any form of annoyance, no matter how fleeting. What a bout loud circular saws, concrete saws, jackhammers, vibratory packers, etc. etc. Yes, all of those should be regulated. They should be made as noise pollution-free as possible, and their hours of use be made as small as possible. There should be a monetary penalty for ruining the environment - some kind of noise tax.

JadeNB 8y ago

> If you have a neighbor overusing them then that is an issue to take up with them directly. To be sure, a problem between one individual and another is probably a matter for individual rectification. However, as the other comments here indicate, this is a systemic, not an individual, problem; and it is for precisely such problems that regulation is meant. (Regulation also answers the question: whose problem is it? If my neighbour wants to use a leaf blower, and I think it's too loud, then we might find a compromise. If some external company wants to use a leaf blower, then good luck negotiating a compromise with them; they have no sense of neighbourliness or community to which to appeal. Regulations provide a well defined sense of who is (legally) right, and so a replacement for that missing sense of community.)

colanderman 8y ago

> loud circular saws, concrete saws, jackhammers, vibratory packers I couldn't tell you the last time I ever saw or heard a neighbor of mine operating one of these. Leaf blower on the other hand? Yesterday.

brokenmachine 8y ago

Found the selfish neighbor...

brokenmachine 8y ago

>I guess we should outlaw or regulate every labor saving device that produces any form of annoyance, no matter how fleeting. What a bout loud circular saws, concrete saws, jackhammers, vibratory packers, etc. etc. Yes, all of those should be regulated. They should be made as noise pollution-free as possible, and their hours of use be made as small as possible. There should be a monetary penalty for ruining the environment - some kind of noise tax.