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Stop TSA Scanners
- kevin_morrill 16y agoForget about being seen naked. The bigger issue is that it's all security theater and does little to actually make us safer, yet it costs us an extraordinary amount in cost and lost time.
- sz 16y agodoes little to actually make us safer Evidence? (or reasoning)
- kiujhgbnj 16y agoIn the first millennium there was no airport security and a large number of Viking raids on Britain. In the second millennium airport security was introduced and many fewer viking raids took place In this millennium with greatly increased airport security there have been no viking raids on any part of the British isles.
- dalke 16y agoGood thing the Vikings didn't use the Thai solar calendar else they would have completely avoided airport security.
- ataggart 16y agoI agree with your point that there is no evidence to suggest it makes us even a little bit safer.
- barrkel 16y agoIf they had caught a bunch of people, don't you think they'd be singing their praises from the rooftops?
- sz 16y agoWhy was this downvoted? See dalke's reply to me below for an actual response: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1852670 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1852670
- kevin_morrill 16y agoIf you have the technology to make a bomb, just take it somewhere else crowded that's less defended. Or do something like the D.C. sniper did years ago. If you calculate the lost man hours of productivity on airport security, we're getting killed everyday. There are definitely ways to avoid this, but it's probably best discussed outside this forum.
- sz 16y agoI really don't get it. Can someone explain what is wrong with body scanners? I just see people embarrassed at having body parts, which is absurd. Everyone looks approximately the same, and it's not like photos of your junk are being sent to your coworkers.
- jambo 16y agoI get it. You, like too many, think genitals are 'junk'. I am not ashamed of my body. I value my body and want to share it only with those I choose, not indiscriminately, and certainly not as a condition for flying. Forced or coerced nudity has been used as a weapon because it represents a one-way power transfer.
- sz 16y agoEven accepting genitalia as a sacred artifact, I have to raise an eyebrow at your definition of 'sharing'. I regularly have the testicles of my neighbor's dog in my view but I wouldn't say that he's sharing his body with me. Furthermore I fail to see exactly what concrete harm is being done that justifies your calling body scanners a weapon.
- jambo 16y agoWould you be okay with strip searches as a requirement for flying, and if not, is it only the time and inconvenience that would bother you, or something else?
- sz 16y agoThe inconvenience of having to undress would annoy me, as do having to take off my shoes and put my luggage through a machine. I would only be annoyed for reasons other than inconvenience if the contact is unprofessional. Assuming that it's not, and everyone else is doing the same, I wouldn't feel like I was being violated. My basic point is that the liberty being infringed upon by these scanners (i.e. liberty to hide your genitals from people) is frivolous. So I'm asking for other reasons that these should be disallowed. This seems to be a very unpopular point of view for some reason.
- miles 16y agoSee also: http://www.stopdigitalstripsearches.org/ http://www.stopdigitalstripsearches.org/
- ataggart 16y agoI opted out at SFO. The incredulous TSA agent repeatedly asked me why I was opting out. I declined to provide an answer, and instead simply asked if opting out was an option and if so, then I opt out. Eventually he let me through, shouting "opt out!", at which point I had to wait for them to rustle up someone to perform the pat down. If even 1/4 of the people in that line opted-out, it would be chaos in the security area. So do your part, and make a TSA agent uncomfortable.
- chrisbennet 16y agoAt least they don't take away our clothes and make us wear orange jump suits for the duration of the flight - yet.