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Years ago in the UK there was a considerable quantity of council owned properties, these were nice places to live with nice rents to pay. There was no shame in
by Theodores 8y ago
Years ago in the UK there was a considerable quantity of council owned properties, these were nice places to live with nice rents to pay. There was no shame in living in a council house, but you wouldn't be buying it, so it was not yours. You wouldn't be evicted either or forced to pay through the nose.
This worked as a baseline, if you had more money or wanted to live in a posh area (or just the countryside) then you could rent elsewhere. Or buy.
Councils could extend their stock of housing and there could be benefits of scale, e.g. replace everyone's windows for double glazed at the same time on the whole street.
In this market there was an anchor on house price inflation as well as market rents. Why pay double to live in somewhere not looked after just to line the pockets of a rent-seeker?
Then Margaret Thatcher came along. Nowadays we don't have council housing. There is some but none is available. Councils aren't allowed to build/buy more. With 'right to buy' the council housing was sold on to rent-seekers, none of whom have any interest at all in the community and only have an interest in making money, not housing people. The rent-seekers have portfolios as bit as large as councils used to have in some instances.
Social mobility is lost now that we have rent-seeker owned properties, you can't just move as easily as was possible with council owned housing. This has been great for the rent seekers as well as their banks. For people wanting to be part of the community, bring up a family and do legit work this has not been so good. Either you are a serf or a rent seeker. There was a time when it was not like that.
The red carpet has been rolled out all the way for the rent seekers, the silly interest rates and notionally low inflation (which does not include rent) means that their capital accumulates, they can leverage and steal more homes from people who deserve to be 'on the ladder'.
Normal working people are forced to pay ever higher sums of money to the rent seekers as they have no choice. So you have two people working to pay for a single bedroom flat, with no money to spare or kids or even cars. You would be really shocked if you saw how some people live in London, people that do service sector stuff have nothing. Pigeons fare better.
People nowadays have no knowledge of how well a stock of council houses serves the community, all they know is the world of the rent seeker. Politicians 'demand' more affordable housing but that doesn't fix the problem, you need capital to deteriorate if invested in property, an anchor in rent prices and for people to be able to live not speculate. It is not hard to get right and not mankind's hardest problem. Apart from anything else having property as the only asset that accumulates is wrong, people should be investing capital in business, old and startup, not forcing the next generation out of their homes.
- esotericn 8y agoRight. In the UK, societally, we've decided that we don't value everyone having a decent place to live. We don't seem to really have a "goal" for our society, I think. Maybe "everyone should have a job". But that's indirect; people want jobs because they (ideally) result in outcomes like feeling like you're contributing and receiving a stable life in response. "Everyone gets a house if they want" is a really solid goal to aim for that we've just sort of given up on. It's not unviable at all, it's just politically been brushed aside.
- __blockcipher__ 8y agoTread carefully. Implement such a policy naively and you end up with the American dream: everyone tied to mortgages they can’t afford. Of course the core problem is treating affordability as merely a function of access to loans, without accounting for second / higher order effects. You’re clearly not proposing that, but it is of course an easy trap for a society to fall into
- EliRivers 8y agoMaybe "everyone should have a job". I think that's just a spin on the real "goal", or at least the feeling behind it; people don't deserve any help when they're down because they could have a job.
- tonyedgecombe 8y agoNot only this but there have been other problems caused by making social housing just for the needy rather than ordinary working people. You end up with a concentration of poverty that is hard to escape from, people with no role models and hence gangs and violence.
- jackkinsella 8y agoThe plentiful council housing, while certainly wonderful for the reasons you gave, did come at a cost. I was surprised to learn that the upper tax rate on income over 20k pounds in 1974 was 83%, rising to 98% for investment income. [1] I believe this trend was what the Beetles sang about in Taxman. 1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_taxation_in_the_U...