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from https://mobile.twitter.com/jm_alexia/status/1064206569141923843 https://mobile.twitter.com/jm_alexia/status/1064206569141923... "Homosexuality is a crimin

by homarp 8y ago

from https://mobile.twitter.com/jm_alexia/status/1064206569141923843 https://mobile.twitter.com/jm_alexia/status/1064206569141923... "Homosexuality is a criminal offense in Ethiopia, there's no way I'm ever submitting an abstract to #ICLR next year... I can't risk my life. I guess there will be more racial diversity, at the cost of no more #LGBT diversity."

baddox 8y ago
Note that many US states also have sodomy laws, so in those states you’ve just got to hope that the 2003 Supreme Court decision sticks around.
- nolok 8y ago
  Note that for a lot of people (me included), Africa is a social and legal black box and that is a major cause of concern for such issues (justified or not). Some countries have unreliable courts and/or people/tribal justice on the street is common, other are more modern, and except for a few specific countries I don't know which ones falls into which group. (what I'm saying is, you're more scared of the unknown, and the various countries of Africa is much less known by the average hn'er than the american system)
  - baddox 8y ago
    I’m afraid I was misunderstood. I didn’t intend to minimize the threat to LGBT people in Ethiopia. I meant to point out that the threat is also still potentially just around the corner in many places.
- mikeash 8y ago
  Those laws have been overturned. That they’re still on the books means nothing.
  - tziki 8y ago
    Source?
    - mikeash 8y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
  - baddox 8y ago
    That’s precisely the Supreme Court case I was referring to. The fact that the laws are still on the books in many states is certainly an indicator the priority those state governments give to protecting LGBT rights.
    - mikeash 8y ago
      It means nothing. Repealing those laws would be a nice symbolic gesture but it’s also a waste of time. It’s normal to leave overturned laws on the books.
digianarchist 8y ago
When I read Africa I assumed they would be hosting it in South Africa which would be a much better choice for LGBT. Pretty much every other country would be a bad choice.

by homarp 8y ago

baddox 8y ago

Note that many US states also have sodomy laws, so in those states you’ve just got to hope that the 2003 Supreme Court decision sticks around.

nolok 8y ago
Note that for a lot of people (me included), Africa is a social and legal black box and that is a major cause of concern for such issues (justified or not). Some countries have unreliable courts and/or people/tribal justice on the street is common, other are more modern, and except for a few specific countries I don't know which ones falls into which group. (what I'm saying is, you're more scared of the unknown, and the various countries of Africa is much less known by the average hn'er than the american system)
- baddox 8y ago
  I’m afraid I was misunderstood. I didn’t intend to minimize the threat to LGBT people in Ethiopia. I meant to point out that the threat is also still potentially just around the corner in many places.
mikeash 8y ago
Those laws have been overturned. That they’re still on the books means nothing.
- tziki 8y ago
  Source?
  - mikeash 8y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
- baddox 8y ago
  That’s precisely the Supreme Court case I was referring to. The fact that the laws are still on the books in many states is certainly an indicator the priority those state governments give to protecting LGBT rights.
  - mikeash 8y ago
    It means nothing. Repealing those laws would be a nice symbolic gesture but it’s also a waste of time. It’s normal to leave overturned laws on the books.

digianarchist 8y ago

When I read Africa I assumed they would be hosting it in South Africa which would be a much better choice for LGBT. Pretty much every other country would be a bad choice.