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> What evidence do you have to support this? This article is about how male suicide is on the rise in the US. That is evidence. I also linked to male incarcera

> What evidence do you have to support this? This article is about how male suicide is on the rise in the US. That is evidence. I also linked to male incarceration rates vs. female. > Women are still underpaid compared to their male counterparts for doing the exact same work This is simply not true and I challenge you to provide data to back up this assertion. https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy... > How exactly is the increasing rate of women in university contributing to the problem of poorly-educated white men committing suicide at a higher rate? Do you think they are totally unconnected? Is it not worth examining? Do you think male suicide and incarceration rates are even a problem worth looking into?

krapp 8y ago
>This article is about how male suicide is on the rise in the US. That is evidence. This article is about how suicide among various groups is falling, and it mentions as a counterpoint the rise in suicides by "white, middle-aged, poorly educated men in areas that were left behind by booms and crushed by busts". Nowhere in the article is it implied that male suicide is on the rise in the US as a result of the power women have over men in society. For that matter, you haven't proven that the increase in proportional incarcerations of males versus females is due to the power women have over men in society (vis a vis, I assume, the legal system) either, rather than men committing more crimes than women. If you're going to challenge others to back up their assertions at least back up your own.
- malvosenior 8y ago
  I'm saying that men don't have a very good place in US society as evidenced by suicide, lack of university enrollment and incarceration. At no point did I suggest that women have power over men. I see the problem as women's issues are being dealt with (often at the expense of men) while men's issues are a taboo that you can't even speak about. I'll use the voting performance of comments in this thread as further evidence that you can't even suggest that men might be in trouble without meeting great resistance.
  - krapp 8y ago
    >I'm saying that men don't have a very good place in US society as evidenced by suicide, lack of university enrollment and incarceration. >. At no point did I suggest that women have power over men. "Is there a point where we collectively step back and acknowledge the great gains women have had in society; so great that they now have a very real advantage over men?"
    - malvosenior 8y ago
      Is that a question (yes question -- not assertion) that you don't think is worth asking?

krapp 8y ago

>This article is about how male suicide is on the rise in the US. That is evidence. This article is about how suicide among various groups is falling, and it mentions as a counterpoint the rise in suicides by "white, middle-aged, poorly educated men in areas that were left behind by booms and crushed by busts". Nowhere in the article is it implied that male suicide is on the rise in the US as a result of the power women have over men in society. For that matter, you haven't proven that the increase in proportional incarcerations of males versus females is due to the power women have over men in society (vis a vis, I assume, the legal system) either, rather than men committing more crimes than women. If you're going to challenge others to back up their assertions at least back up your own.

malvosenior 8y ago
I'm saying that men don't have a very good place in US society as evidenced by suicide, lack of university enrollment and incarceration. At no point did I suggest that women have power over men. I see the problem as women's issues are being dealt with (often at the expense of men) while men's issues are a taboo that you can't even speak about. I'll use the voting performance of comments in this thread as further evidence that you can't even suggest that men might be in trouble without meeting great resistance.
- krapp 8y ago
  >I'm saying that men don't have a very good place in US society as evidenced by suicide, lack of university enrollment and incarceration. >. At no point did I suggest that women have power over men. "Is there a point where we collectively step back and acknowledge the great gains women have had in society; so great that they now have a very real advantage over men?"
  - malvosenior 8y ago
    Is that a question (yes question -- not assertion) that you don't think is worth asking?