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Change "playing video games" to "playing football/soccer/basketball". It's just a different competitive activity.

watwut 8y ago
Through, kids tend to be calm after playing those sports and tend to act like jerks after playing videogames. They also focus on homework better after sport and worst after game. They are also able to stop soccer easier while not too tired, but play game longer then they can handle (leading to royally annoying behavior).
- GuiA 8y ago
  Definitely not limited to children, I observe this in myself too. (although hopefully I handle it better than a child) I suspect that is because when playing a physical sport, the physical exertion gives you a dopamine rush whether you lose or win. When playing video games, you have no such release if you lose - just pent up frustration.
  - saulrh 8y ago
    That or the exercise means you're too tired to actually do anything with your anger and disappointment and instead just sit there hating yourself.
    - watwut 8y ago
      I don't think that describes feeling and behavior after people playing sport. Not in my experience at all. It is other way round - angry sad people are happier after physical activity (which does not have to be competitive anyway).
- kakarot 8y ago
  I'd like some citations for that wildly presumptuous statement.
  - austincheney 8y ago
    Let’s call it repeated observation. Watching people play video games induces a drug like numbness and craved fixation followed by withdrawal once the stimulus is removed. The withdrawal is observable as a lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity.
    - kakarot 8y ago
      Personal "repeated observation" is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. It doesn't mean anything. Watching anything that you enjoy will create a stimulus feedback loop. I like watching let's plays of old games and learning new strategies for old games from people who dedicate large amounts of their time and expertise to that kind of thing. I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience the same symptoms I would if I had just watched half an hour of television, whether its a sports game or cartoon. If I was intellectually stimulated during this time, then my brain begins sorting and strengthening connections between new and old information. If I have a mental addiction to whatever I'm doing, then some negative impulses may also occur, but that happens with literally anything and is irrelevant to video games. The ideas you're suggesting, that watching someone else play video games creates negative behavior such as "focusing on homework better after sport and worst after game" is some serious armchair psychology that, unless you can provided citations to credible studies, simply has no basis in reality.
      - yesenadam 8y ago
        I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience... I'm not rude enough to just reply "That doesn't mean anything" to that, but the thought of doing so crossed my mind.
        kakarot 8y ago
        I'm confused. Are you trying to call me out for negating a personal anecdote with another anecdote? That's the whole point. To show that they don't mean anything statistically. It's not rude to point out to someone that their anecdotal "evidence" is meaningless. It's just a fact.
- Nzen 8y ago
  Independent of how well this narrative typifies any particular group of people, this response is a non sequitur, in the context of the original comment. Ie, atom-morgan is suggesting that the mental experience of video game stream audience members is similar to that of sport stream audience members. Presumably, we would match a video game and sport of similar intensity (team fortress : football :: papers please : figure skating).

Through, kids tend to be calm after playing those sports and tend to act like jerks after playing videogames. They also focus on homework better after sport and worst after game. They are also able to stop soccer easier while not too tired, but play game longer then they can handle (leading to royally annoying behavior).

GuiA 8y ago
Definitely not limited to children, I observe this in myself too. (although hopefully I handle it better than a child) I suspect that is because when playing a physical sport, the physical exertion gives you a dopamine rush whether you lose or win. When playing video games, you have no such release if you lose - just pent up frustration.
- saulrh 8y ago
  That or the exercise means you're too tired to actually do anything with your anger and disappointment and instead just sit there hating yourself.
  - watwut 8y ago
    I don't think that describes feeling and behavior after people playing sport. Not in my experience at all. It is other way round - angry sad people are happier after physical activity (which does not have to be competitive anyway).
kakarot 8y ago
I'd like some citations for that wildly presumptuous statement.
- austincheney 8y ago
  Let’s call it repeated observation. Watching people play video games induces a drug like numbness and craved fixation followed by withdrawal once the stimulus is removed. The withdrawal is observable as a lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity.
  - kakarot 8y ago
    Personal "repeated observation" is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. It doesn't mean anything. Watching anything that you enjoy will create a stimulus feedback loop. I like watching let's plays of old games and learning new strategies for old games from people who dedicate large amounts of their time and expertise to that kind of thing. I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience the same symptoms I would if I had just watched half an hour of television, whether its a sports game or cartoon. If I was intellectually stimulated during this time, then my brain begins sorting and strengthening connections between new and old information. If I have a mental addiction to whatever I'm doing, then some negative impulses may also occur, but that happens with literally anything and is irrelevant to video games. The ideas you're suggesting, that watching someone else play video games creates negative behavior such as "focusing on homework better after sport and worst after game" is some serious armchair psychology that, unless you can provided citations to credible studies, simply has no basis in reality.
    - yesenadam 8y ago
      I don't suddenly have a "lack of cognitive concentration compounded by emotional sensitivity" after watching. I experience... I'm not rude enough to just reply "That doesn't mean anything" to that, but the thought of doing so crossed my mind.
      - kakarot 8y ago
        I'm confused. Are you trying to call me out for negating a personal anecdote with another anecdote? That's the whole point. To show that they don't mean anything statistically. It's not rude to point out to someone that their anecdotal "evidence" is meaningless. It's just a fact.
Nzen 8y ago
Independent of how well this narrative typifies any particular group of people, this response is a non sequitur, in the context of the original comment. Ie, atom-morgan is suggesting that the mental experience of video game stream audience members is similar to that of sport stream audience members. Presumably, we would match a video game and sport of similar intensity (team fortress : football :: papers please : figure skating).