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This was chickenpox. Imagine if it were rubella. Or polio. They can't be physically or economically coerced by a government because of the religious exemption,
by cmurf 8y ago
This was chickenpox. Imagine if it were rubella. Or polio.
They can't be physically or economically coerced by a government because of the religious exemption, so far that's the law of the land as the Supreme Court conservative shift gave us the Hobby Lobby case. So there's nothing to do about it legally in the near term, short of something so horrific that even the conservative court reverses itself somehow.
But I wonder to what degree insurers and businesses could affect the decision making: if you're not immunized, we won't cover your hospitalization; and refuse to hire people who's immunizations aren't up to date.
I've been an employer, and if I'm the one paying for a majority of health care premiums, I'd absolutely be on board with discriminating in hiring people who think immunizations are some b.s. conspiracy. That sort of paranoia is a hiring risk even aside from the loss of herd immunity.
- conanbatt 8y ago> if you're not immunized, we won't cover your hospitalization; and refuse to hire people who's immunizations aren't up to date. Can this also apply for alcohol drinking, unhealthy food habits, lack of exercise?
- jerkstate 8y agoWell it does already, if you apply for life insurance they do a alcohol/drug test, nicotine test, BMI, weight, blood pressure, heart rate etc. Some companies insurers offer this sort of test to their employees for a health insurance "rebate" if you are deemed healthy.
- rayiner 8y agoNo, because lack of immunizations endangers your coworkers by compromising herd immunity, while unhealthy eating habits do not.
- conanbatt 8y agoDebatable at best.
- will4274 8y ago> But I wonder to what degree insurers and businesses could affect the decision making: if you're not immunized, we won't cover your hospitalization; and refuse to hire people who's immunizations aren't up to date. You can't do this in the United States ... because of Obamacare. Obamacare's prohibition on discriminating on pre-existing conditions allows health insurance companies to consider exactly five factors: tier (level of coverage), age, location, single or family, and whether you smoke cigarettes. All other factors are illegal. Prior to Obamacare, it was legal for companies to charge unvaccinated individuals more and inidivudals who exercised less. Source: https://www.healthcare.gov/how-plans-set-your-premiums/ https://www.healthcare.gov/how-plans-set-your-premiums/
- clort 8y agoYou might be able to discriminate against potential employees based on their obvious stupidity, but you might be on less certain ground when they claim it is a religious viewpoint?
- DanBC 8y agoWhich religions forbid immunisation?
- eesmith 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_and_religion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_and_religion > Christian Science selectively rejects various forms of medical care including vaccination.[14][15] The Congregation of Universal Wisdom, a religion based on belief in chiropractic spinal adjustments and Universal Intelligence, forbids vaccinations
- ryanmercer 8y agoSome Orthodox Protestants claim it interferes with 'divine providence'. If an animal is used at any process in production, some Buddhists will argue it goes against the precepts. Some vaccines are grown in chicken eggs so there's some basis for arguing the manufacturing process takes a life. As far as I know, those are the only remotely valid claims that vaccines violate a religion's beliefs aside from Christian Science.
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