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> But somehow, in the US one unvaccinated child is a risk to a school full of vaccinated children? This doesn't make sense. You're misunderstanding who is at r

> But somehow, in the US one unvaccinated child is a risk to a school full of vaccinated children? This doesn't make sense. You're misunderstanding who is at risk in this scenario. It is not the vaccinated who are at risk; it is the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are protected by the "wall" of immune people separating them from the sick. The fewer and farther between are the at-risk, the decreased likelihood of transmission. You might say "but those people took that risk on their own"; but thats not the case for many people. i.e., Newborn infants, Individuals who are immunodeficient due to HIV/AIDS, lymphoma, leukemia, bone marrow cancer, an impaired spleen, chemotherapy, etc.[1]. Essentially, those who cannot become immune are only protected by herd immunity. And every additional non-immune person in that pool increases the risk to all the others. So everytime someone chooses to remain immune they are hurting that whole pool, some of whom cannot choose. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#Protection_of_those_without_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity#Protection_of_th...

RobertRoberts 8y ago
>The unvaccinated are protected by the "wall" of immune people separating them from the sick. Are you saying that _only_ unvaccinated kids get sick? And that they are _only_ protected by "space" made by vaccinated kids? Newborn infants are protected by colostrum, look this one up if you are unaware of it. Other sick people I addressed in my initial point, they seem to be a threat based on your logic, not someone who needs protecting.
- shepardrtc 8y ago
  > Are you saying that _only_ unvaccinated kids get sick? And that they are _only_ protected by "space" made by vaccinated kids? You have an incredibly poor understanding of vaccines and viruses. The virus is going to spread regardless of vaccinations. But people who are vaccinated can fight it off much more easily and quickly. That lowers the risk dramatically for the unvaccinated when the vaccinated get rid of quickly. When you're fully infected, you're a carrier for much longer.
  - RobertRoberts 8y ago
    >But people who are vaccinated can fight it off much more easily and quickly. What about people with compromised immune systems? Does the vaccine make their immune system stronger? >... the vaccinated get rid of quickly. Do you have any data to show this? While I know there are a lot of common beliefs about what vaccines do, has there been any studies comparing the speed of recovery between groups of vaccinated/unvaccinated and equally healthy people?

RobertRoberts 8y ago

>The unvaccinated are protected by the "wall" of immune people separating them from the sick. Are you saying that _only_ unvaccinated kids get sick? And that they are _only_ protected by "space" made by vaccinated kids? Newborn infants are protected by colostrum, look this one up if you are unaware of it. Other sick people I addressed in my initial point, they seem to be a threat based on your logic, not someone who needs protecting.

shepardrtc 8y ago
> Are you saying that _only_ unvaccinated kids get sick? And that they are _only_ protected by "space" made by vaccinated kids? You have an incredibly poor understanding of vaccines and viruses. The virus is going to spread regardless of vaccinations. But people who are vaccinated can fight it off much more easily and quickly. That lowers the risk dramatically for the unvaccinated when the vaccinated get rid of quickly. When you're fully infected, you're a carrier for much longer.
- RobertRoberts 8y ago
  >But people who are vaccinated can fight it off much more easily and quickly. What about people with compromised immune systems? Does the vaccine make their immune system stronger? >... the vaccinated get rid of quickly. Do you have any data to show this? While I know there are a lot of common beliefs about what vaccines do, has there been any studies comparing the speed of recovery between groups of vaccinated/unvaccinated and equally healthy people?