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GDP / capita is a pretty meaningless metric if you consider that wealth is a lot more concentrated these days.

by thomasz 16y ago

john_horton 16y ago
Income is more concentrated today compared to the post-war period, but I don't think that makes the mean meaningless---it depends upon how much weight you put on a dollar held by different parts of the distribution. That being said, I think you'd be hard pressed to show that any part of the income distribution is worse-off in real terms than they were in 1950. Incidentally, we only know about these changes in the income distribution because empirically oriented economists have been collecting and analyzing this data for many years.
- thomasz 16y ago
  I agree with you on the assumption that most likely all parts of the income distribution are better of today compared to the 50's -- on absolute terms. But _relative_ wealth becomes an important metric as soon as basic needs -- food, shelter etc. -- are satisfied.
  - john_horton 16y ago
    Agreed - relative inequality definitely matters.
dennisgorelik 16y ago
Could you suggest better metric than GDP per capita?
- aloneinkyoto 16y ago
  Human development index (HDI) Genuine progress indicator (GPI) Index of Sustainable Economic Welfare (ISEW) Gross national happiness (GNH) The Gini coefficient Just to name a few. None of which is perfect, but at least better than the GDP when it comes to actually saying something about the quality and state of an economy.
  - anamax 16y ago
    > The Gini coefficient Why do I care how much someone else has?
    - aloneinkyoto 16y ago
      Rich man in a ghetto or rich man among friends. Pick one.
      - anamax 16y ago
        > Rich man in a ghetto or rich man among friends. Pick one. Rich people don't live in ghettos - that's why ghettos have a very "good" Gini coefficient. (Ghettos would be better off if they did have rich residents.) I didn't hate rich folks when I lived in a ghetto. Was I doing something wrong?
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GDP / capita is a pretty meaningless metric if you consider that wealth is a lot more concentrated these days.

by thomasz 16y ago

GDP / capita is a pretty meaningless metric if you consider that wealth is a lot more concentrated these days.

Income is more concentrated today compared to the post-war period, but I don't think that makes the mean meaningless---it depends upon how much weight you put on a dollar held by different parts of the distribution. That being said, I think you'd be hard pressed to show that any part of the income distribution is worse-off in real terms than they were in 1950. Incidentally, we only know about these changes in the income distribution because empirically oriented economists have been collecting and analyzing this data for many years.

thomasz 16y ago
I agree with you on the assumption that most likely all parts of the income distribution are better of today compared to the 50's -- on absolute terms. But _relative_ wealth becomes an important metric as soon as basic needs -- food, shelter etc. -- are satisfied.
- john_horton 16y ago
  Agreed - relative inequality definitely matters.

dennisgorelik 16y ago

Could you suggest better metric than GDP per capita?

aloneinkyoto 16y ago
Human development index (HDI) Genuine progress indicator (GPI) Index of Sustainable Economic Welfare (ISEW) Gross national happiness (GNH) The Gini coefficient Just to name a few. None of which is perfect, but at least better than the GDP when it comes to actually saying something about the quality and state of an economy.
- anamax 16y ago
  > The Gini coefficient Why do I care how much someone else has?
  - aloneinkyoto 16y ago
    Rich man in a ghetto or rich man among friends. Pick one.
    - anamax 16y ago
      > Rich man in a ghetto or rich man among friends. Pick one. Rich people don't live in ghettos - that's why ghettos have a very "good" Gini coefficient. (Ghettos would be better off if they did have rich residents.) I didn't hate rich folks when I lived in a ghetto. Was I doing something wrong?
      - deleted 16y ago
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