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While China has a bad record in human rights, I suggest to apply a lot of source criticism what comes to "social credit system." Especially here in Hacker News

While China has a bad record in human rights, I suggest to apply a lot of source criticism what comes to "social credit system." Especially here in Hacker News comments where discussion is generally more intelligent. Here is more in-depth and fact based article about the topic: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social-credit-score-isnt-real/amp/?__twitter_impression=true https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/11/16/chinas-orwellian-social...

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PavlovsCat 8y ago
What facts in the original article does your article correct? Its main point is just that there isn't a single unified ranking, which the OP article doesn't seem to claim.
Kaveren 8y ago
> "and the admitted student who was erroneously denied his place at a university due to his father’s failure to pay back a bank loan." It seems like you can strike "erroneously" from that sentence, since the source it cites doesn't imply it was a mistake at all. Collective punishment is worth criticizing. As per usual, when implementing some Orwellian scheme, there will be a crowd that states there's nothing to worry about, and that people are over-reacting, and that it's really not so bad after all. I wonder what the social credit score of Chinese dissidents will look like. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-affects-childs-university-enrolment-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-affects-...
stefan_ 8y ago
Chinese cities literally use face recognition to publicly shame jaywalkers with their name on big screens: https://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/2174564/facial-recognition-catches-chinas-air-con-queen-dong-mingzhu https://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/2174564/facial-... Bad record on human rights doesn't exactly cover it when the full stupidity of that fathoms on you. Jaywalking in itself is a manufactured crime.
rick22 8y ago
This argument is nothing new. Always some portion of the people who benefit from the system will support it no matter how evil it is. The condescending comment on Hacker News comments is not going to persuade simply because the premise that "self policing for the government might be good in some cases" is totally wrong.

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PavlovsCat 8y ago

What facts in the original article does your article correct? Its main point is just that there isn't a single unified ranking, which the OP article doesn't seem to claim.

Kaveren 8y ago

> "and the admitted student who was erroneously denied his place at a university due to his father’s failure to pay back a bank loan." It seems like you can strike "erroneously" from that sentence, since the source it cites doesn't imply it was a mistake at all. Collective punishment is worth criticizing. As per usual, when implementing some Orwellian scheme, there will be a crowd that states there's nothing to worry about, and that people are over-reacting, and that it's really not so bad after all. I wonder what the social credit score of Chinese dissidents will look like. [0] https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-affects-childs-university-enrolment-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/china-social-credit-affects-...

stefan_ 8y ago

Chinese cities literally use face recognition to publicly shame jaywalkers with their name on big screens: https://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/2174564/facial-recognition-catches-chinas-air-con-queen-dong-mingzhu https://www.scmp.com/tech/innovation/article/2174564/facial-... Bad record on human rights doesn't exactly cover it when the full stupidity of that fathoms on you. Jaywalking in itself is a manufactured crime.

rick22 8y ago

This argument is nothing new. Always some portion of the people who benefit from the system will support it no matter how evil it is. The condescending comment on Hacker News comments is not going to persuade simply because the premise that "self policing for the government might be good in some cases" is totally wrong.