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Isn't it more like criminals or serious offenders can't fly? Will you allow a person who can possibly hijack the plane?

Majestic121 8y ago
No, not necessarily. As pointed out in another comment : "Other infractions reportedly include smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online."
- jaclaz 8y ago
  >No, not necessarily. >As pointed out in another comment : "Other infractions reportedly include smoking in non-smoking zones ... Well, last time someone lighted a cigarette on a plane ... https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/plane-makes-emergency-landing-after-passenger-lit-cigarette/ https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/plane-makes-emergency-landing-...
  - privong 8y ago
    > Well, last time someone lighted a cigarette on a plane ... There are also designated non-smoking zones that are not due to immediate (as opposed to long-term) safety concerns.
    - shaobo 8y ago
      The references linked in the article specifically mentions smoking on trains and planes.
- shaobo 8y ago
  The devil is always in the detail. The "buying too many video games" line came from the gamification aspect of a social network owned by a private enterprise and has nothing to do with the government scheme. And even they have backpedaled from that claim: "Hu Tao, Zhima Credit’s general manager, paints a different picture now. She says the app doesn’t monitor social media posts “nor does it attempt to measure qualitative characteristics like character, honesty, or moral value.” Zhima Credit is not a pilot for the social credit system and doesn’t share data with the government without users’ consent, she says." from https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/03/life-inside-chinas-social-credit-laboratory/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/03/life-inside-chinas-soci... And the "posting fake news online" line actually refers to "spreading false information about terrorism" which quite a bit more serious.
  - shaobo 8y ago
    I'd love to know why people downvoted me with no explanation.
    - alexandercrohde 8y ago
      I can't speak for other people, and I didn't downvote you. But it sounds deliberately dishonest to pretend this is anti-terrorism when it's based on trivial misdemeanors like smoking. Once you've established that you're not pursuing the truth your words are only poison/noise that harms the group of us who are trying very hard to figure out what is true.
sverige 8y ago
"Criminals or serious offenders" includes those whose crime was offending the government or other elites by merely saying something that they didn't like. Only a tiny subset of speech should be considered a crime, like yelling fire in a crowded theater.

No, not necessarily. As pointed out in another comment : "Other infractions reportedly include smoking in non-smoking zones, buying too many video games and posting fake news online."

jaclaz 8y ago
>No, not necessarily. >As pointed out in another comment : "Other infractions reportedly include smoking in non-smoking zones ... Well, last time someone lighted a cigarette on a plane ... https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/plane-makes-emergency-landing-after-passenger-lit-cigarette/ https://nypost.com/2018/05/30/plane-makes-emergency-landing-...
- privong 8y ago
  > Well, last time someone lighted a cigarette on a plane ... There are also designated non-smoking zones that are not due to immediate (as opposed to long-term) safety concerns.
  - shaobo 8y ago
    The references linked in the article specifically mentions smoking on trains and planes.
shaobo 8y ago
The devil is always in the detail. The "buying too many video games" line came from the gamification aspect of a social network owned by a private enterprise and has nothing to do with the government scheme. And even they have backpedaled from that claim: "Hu Tao, Zhima Credit’s general manager, paints a different picture now. She says the app doesn’t monitor social media posts “nor does it attempt to measure qualitative characteristics like character, honesty, or moral value.” Zhima Credit is not a pilot for the social credit system and doesn’t share data with the government without users’ consent, she says." from https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/03/life-inside-chinas-social-credit-laboratory/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/03/life-inside-chinas-soci... And the "posting fake news online" line actually refers to "spreading false information about terrorism" which quite a bit more serious.
- shaobo 8y ago
  I'd love to know why people downvoted me with no explanation.
  - alexandercrohde 8y ago
    I can't speak for other people, and I didn't downvote you. But it sounds deliberately dishonest to pretend this is anti-terrorism when it's based on trivial misdemeanors like smoking. Once you've established that you're not pursuing the truth your words are only poison/noise that harms the group of us who are trying very hard to figure out what is true.

sverige 8y ago

"Criminals or serious offenders" includes those whose crime was offending the government or other elites by merely saying something that they didn't like. Only a tiny subset of speech should be considered a crime, like yelling fire in a crowded theater.