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Horrific predicted tech enabled dystopia now in China. Where next? what if airlines taxis and hotels shared ratings, would the west be so different? I hate Uber

Horrific predicted tech enabled dystopia now in China. Where next? what if airlines taxis and hotels shared ratings, would the west be so different? I hate Uber Airbnb pestering me for a rating every trip and the fact that I am rated as well. I don’t know or care what my rating is, but my wife does, she was upset recently by an Airbnb landlord in Belgrade, she gave us a bad rating because we had not deep cleaned the place?? The apartment was awful and we had to leave at 5.OO am and the lift didn’t work, last thing on my mind was hovering, no hotel would expect such, but maybe in the future only perfect behaviour will allow one to travel.

baybal2 8y ago
Well, nonpersonhood is nothing new to China. Tenth of millions of people in China can't even get an ID because they don't have birth certificates, and without that you can't legally have a bank account, have a phone number, receive education, receive medical care, travel, own property, have family or even immigrate away from China. And the West has nevertheless kept quiet for long 28 years.
- coldtea 8y ago
  You make it sound like something Chinese government purposefully did, when in fact, those people were simply never registered by their parents -- to avoid the fee for having a child above quota. >The group was never officially registered on the country’s household registration record system, known as hukou, which is closely linked to a person’s legal identity. That means they didn’t officially exist—until recently. On Friday (March 24), China’s Ministry of Public Security, the government department in charge of hukou registrations, announced that they had helped register the 14 million. https://qz.com/941240/china-keeps-finding-millions-of-people-who-never-officially-existed/ https://qz.com/941240/china-keeps-finding-millions-of-people...
  - baybal2 8y ago
    That's not the case, aside from that, having ones papers taken was and is an almost mundane punishment used againts very ordinary people. There are way, way more such non-enpersonned people than just second children, children of single women, or children from marriages of other "non-persons." It is just this time, with the social credit, the state has finally got balls to go after high class bourgeois from megacities, and lower end elites.
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  If you want to see non personhood, take a look at how falun gong are treated.
jaclaz 8y ago
>... no hotel would expect such ... Sure, and you and your wife were perfectly free to book a hotel as opposed to an AirBnB (which is NOT a hotel).
iagooar 8y ago
I thought Airbnb charges an extra for the final cleaning?
- gpvos 8y ago
  It depends. I was asked to hoover before leaving too, recently.
- glenneroo 8y ago
  They do, however most of my recent Airbnbs rentals have started requesting (via attached info email and/or the info-book on premises) to wash the dishes, change/take off the bedding sheets and in a couple cases, to wipe specific areas down. It feels like renters are continually pushing the boundaries of what they can ask of guests/tenants.
  - omegabravo 8y ago
    How interesting, I just assumed everyone cleaned up after themselves. I always do the dishes and tidy any mess I may have left. I'll gladly remove the bedding if requested, that only takes a few seconds. Perhaps it's a cultural thing.
    - glenneroo 8y ago
      Considering that Airbnb is generally competing with hotels, which expect nothing of their guests, I tend to approach Airbnb with a similar mentality in regards to cleanliness, granted some of my stays were truly amazing homes where I took extra care to clean up after myself. But I'm far from being a slob and I actually really like doing dishes. It's mostly a matter of principle - why should I pay a cleaning fee and have to clean? This can be particularly frustrating when staying only 1-2 nights where the cleaning fee can be as high as renting for just 1 night.
sjg007 8y ago
You should have also reported the apartment as being awful to AirBnB.

baybal2 8y ago

Well, nonpersonhood is nothing new to China. Tenth of millions of people in China can't even get an ID because they don't have birth certificates, and without that you can't legally have a bank account, have a phone number, receive education, receive medical care, travel, own property, have family or even immigrate away from China. And the West has nevertheless kept quiet for long 28 years.

coldtea 8y ago
You make it sound like something Chinese government purposefully did, when in fact, those people were simply never registered by their parents -- to avoid the fee for having a child above quota. >The group was never officially registered on the country’s household registration record system, known as hukou, which is closely linked to a person’s legal identity. That means they didn’t officially exist—until recently. On Friday (March 24), China’s Ministry of Public Security, the government department in charge of hukou registrations, announced that they had helped register the 14 million. https://qz.com/941240/china-keeps-finding-millions-of-people-who-never-officially-existed/ https://qz.com/941240/china-keeps-finding-millions-of-people...
- baybal2 8y ago
  That's not the case, aside from that, having ones papers taken was and is an almost mundane punishment used againts very ordinary people. There are way, way more such non-enpersonned people than just second children, children of single women, or children from marriages of other "non-persons." It is just this time, with the social credit, the state has finally got balls to go after high class bourgeois from megacities, and lower end elites.
beaconstudios 8y ago
If you want to see non personhood, take a look at how falun gong are treated.

jaclaz 8y ago

>... no hotel would expect such ... Sure, and you and your wife were perfectly free to book a hotel as opposed to an AirBnB (which is NOT a hotel).

iagooar 8y ago

I thought Airbnb charges an extra for the final cleaning?

gpvos 8y ago
It depends. I was asked to hoover before leaving too, recently.
glenneroo 8y ago
They do, however most of my recent Airbnbs rentals have started requesting (via attached info email and/or the info-book on premises) to wash the dishes, change/take off the bedding sheets and in a couple cases, to wipe specific areas down. It feels like renters are continually pushing the boundaries of what they can ask of guests/tenants.
- omegabravo 8y ago
  How interesting, I just assumed everyone cleaned up after themselves. I always do the dishes and tidy any mess I may have left. I'll gladly remove the bedding if requested, that only takes a few seconds. Perhaps it's a cultural thing.
  - glenneroo 8y ago
    Considering that Airbnb is generally competing with hotels, which expect nothing of their guests, I tend to approach Airbnb with a similar mentality in regards to cleanliness, granted some of my stays were truly amazing homes where I took extra care to clean up after myself. But I'm far from being a slob and I actually really like doing dishes. It's mostly a matter of principle - why should I pay a cleaning fee and have to clean? This can be particularly frustrating when staying only 1-2 nights where the cleaning fee can be as high as renting for just 1 night.

sjg007 8y ago

You should have also reported the apartment as being awful to AirBnB.