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>the story here is that Facebook hired people to say something true about George Soros Well no that’s not really the story. The story is really that FB hired

>the story here is that Facebook hired people to say something true about George Soros Well no that’s not really the story. The story is really that FB hired a PR agency to dig up dirt to personally attack a FB critic, and tried to hide the truth that they were behind the PR campaign targeting an individual. Further, Zuckerburg publicly denied it. The story is about FB coming clean, that they did hire a political consulting firm to discredit a FB critic, and acknowledge FB later falsely claimed they didn’t do what they in fact did. Is it not scary to you a Company like FB would, under shield on anonymity, hire a PR firm to publicly discredit someone? And you don’t take any issue with the idea FB (Zuckerburg) later falsely denied FB hired the Firm to target and discredit an individual? If it wasn’t a big deal FB wouldn’t have hired a firm to target an individual to discredit them, and hide behind the cloak of anonymity. They wouldn’t have subsequently publicly denied their behavior. And they wouldn’t have come clean on Thanksgiving eve in attempt to sweep the story under the rug (it’s never an accident when companies publish bad news before a long weekend and it’s telling).

creaghpatr 8y ago
>Is it not scary to you a Company like FB would under shield on anonymity hire a PR firm to publicly discredit someone? And you don’t take any issue with the idea the later falsely denied hiring the Firm to discredit an individual? This happens all the time. Theranos literally did this when they hired Fusion GPS for air cover and that’s just one recent example of many. It’s credibility laundering and anyone can pay organizations like Definers that get outlets like NYT and WsJ to publish ‘credible’ scoops https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2018/03/15/elizabeth-holmes-unfairly-punished-for-the-theranos-debacle/ https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2018/03/15/elizabeth-holme...
- likeabbas 8y ago
  >This happens all the time. That makes it all the more frightening
- will_brown 8y ago
  1. Because something happens “all the time” doesn’t make it news worthy? Or concerning/scary behavior. 2. From what you linked it’s not clear Theranos did the same thing (ie hired a firm to dig up dirt on an individual and attack them in the media, got caught and lied about it). But if Theranos did the same exact thing as FB and what you linked to states that...well isn’t that proof such behavior is newsworthy.
- JustSomeNobody 8y ago
  >This happens all the time. So is this an argument that the behavior is acceptable?
- cthulha 8y ago
  > This happens all the time. That doesn't make it less scary or dysfunctional. It undermines the health of politics and society when this is acceptable behaviour.

creaghpatr 8y ago

>Is it not scary to you a Company like FB would under shield on anonymity hire a PR firm to publicly discredit someone? And you don’t take any issue with the idea the later falsely denied hiring the Firm to discredit an individual? This happens all the time. Theranos literally did this when they hired Fusion GPS for air cover and that’s just one recent example of many. It’s credibility laundering and anyone can pay organizations like Definers that get outlets like NYT and WsJ to publish ‘credible’ scoops https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2018/03/15/elizabeth-holmes-unfairly-punished-for-the-theranos-debacle/ https://philip.greenspun.com/blog/2018/03/15/elizabeth-holme...

likeabbas 8y ago
>This happens all the time. That makes it all the more frightening
will_brown 8y ago
1. Because something happens “all the time” doesn’t make it news worthy? Or concerning/scary behavior. 2. From what you linked it’s not clear Theranos did the same thing (ie hired a firm to dig up dirt on an individual and attack them in the media, got caught and lied about it). But if Theranos did the same exact thing as FB and what you linked to states that...well isn’t that proof such behavior is newsworthy.
JustSomeNobody 8y ago
>This happens all the time. So is this an argument that the behavior is acceptable?
cthulha 8y ago
> This happens all the time. That doesn't make it less scary or dysfunctional. It undermines the health of politics and society when this is acceptable behaviour.