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These reports always come up within 4 months after Apple having launched a new device. I'm guessing some people are making a lot of money from this FUD, by hiri

These reports always come up within 4 months after Apple having launched a new device. I'm guessing some people are making a lot of money from this FUD, by hiring PR / Research firms that will do everything to make Apple look weak.

traskjd 8y ago
Came here to say this. Every. Single. Time. They launch a new phone, out comes the stories of production cuts, missed targets etc. And then the sun comes out at the next earnings announcement. Sure, one day we'll all be wrong, but this narrative has played out for about the last 5 launches. It's about as common as FB announcing record DAU at earnings then releasing a note about shutting down millions of bots a couple of weeks later.
old-gregg 8y ago
I disagree. This never happened with iPhone 1 through 6, when a new iPhone had always been better than its predecessor in every way. After the 6, "upgrading" meant gaining some and losing some, that's also when Apple started to offer the old versions alongside the new ones on their site for far longer. To provide some anecdata: I got myself an iPhone 6 Plus right after iPhone 8 came out because I needed a headphone jack. If I were to upgrade I'd probably go with the 8 Plus now because it comes with a superior battery life and a physical home button.
- spiderfarmer 8y ago
  I fail to see how your personal experience (and preference) relates to my complaint about useless 'experts' that are predicting bad earnings, with Apple proving them wrong every time at the next earnings report. For about 5 years in a row this has been the case and it has nothing to do with the actual products.
- herrkanin 8y ago
  You misunderstand. These reports come out from third parties about 4 months after release, and are always disproven once Apple release their quarterly reports.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  Even with the 6 you lost one-handed use, the ability to set the phone on edge on a flat surface, and pocketability.
drawkbox 8y ago
Short and distort [1] is big business, sketchy and mostly illegal, but common on the markets biggest shorted stocks, AAPL included. For short and distort to work, the stock/product has to be one in major demand that can be pushed down with big fish efforts and it will bounce back almost guaranteed. Skimming funds for the hedge funds and big fish from the small/medium longs. The SEC is starting to crack down on short and distort [2] as it is a market cheat like naked short selling [3] was which exacerbated the Great Recession. SEC cracked down on naked short selling three days after the Great Recession cliff in Sept 2008 [3]. But the levels of shell/misdirection in short and distort is very hard to track down. It is market abuse and if not checked could break the public markets now that most of investing is automated/HFT. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort [2] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-190 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-190 [3] https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-204.htm https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-204.htm
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traskjd 8y ago

Came here to say this. Every. Single. Time. They launch a new phone, out comes the stories of production cuts, missed targets etc. And then the sun comes out at the next earnings announcement. Sure, one day we'll all be wrong, but this narrative has played out for about the last 5 launches. It's about as common as FB announcing record DAU at earnings then releasing a note about shutting down millions of bots a couple of weeks later.

old-gregg 8y ago

I disagree. This never happened with iPhone 1 through 6, when a new iPhone had always been better than its predecessor in every way. After the 6, "upgrading" meant gaining some and losing some, that's also when Apple started to offer the old versions alongside the new ones on their site for far longer. To provide some anecdata: I got myself an iPhone 6 Plus right after iPhone 8 came out because I needed a headphone jack. If I were to upgrade I'd probably go with the 8 Plus now because it comes with a superior battery life and a physical home button.

spiderfarmer 8y ago
I fail to see how your personal experience (and preference) relates to my complaint about useless 'experts' that are predicting bad earnings, with Apple proving them wrong every time at the next earnings report. For about 5 years in a row this has been the case and it has nothing to do with the actual products.
herrkanin 8y ago
You misunderstand. These reports come out from third parties about 4 months after release, and are always disproven once Apple release their quarterly reports.
erikpukinskis 8y ago
Even with the 6 you lost one-handed use, the ability to set the phone on edge on a flat surface, and pocketability.

drawkbox 8y ago

Short and distort [1] is big business, sketchy and mostly illegal, but common on the markets biggest shorted stocks, AAPL included. For short and distort to work, the stock/product has to be one in major demand that can be pushed down with big fish efforts and it will bounce back almost guaranteed. Skimming funds for the hedge funds and big fish from the small/medium longs. The SEC is starting to crack down on short and distort [2] as it is a market cheat like naked short selling [3] was which exacerbated the Great Recession. SEC cracked down on naked short selling three days after the Great Recession cliff in Sept 2008 [3]. But the levels of shell/misdirection in short and distort is very hard to track down. It is market abuse and if not checked could break the public markets now that most of investing is automated/HFT. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_and_distort [2] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-190 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2018-190 [3] https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-204.htm https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-204.htm

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