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I wrote React for a couple years and was pretty dogmatic against the whole "stringy code" thing. Obviously and generally, we'd rather write code not in strings

I wrote React for a couple years and was pretty dogmatic against the whole "stringy code" thing. Obviously and generally, we'd rather write code not in strings. But guess what? Moving to Vue from React was a major productivity boost for us - "stringy code" and all.

rickycook 8y ago
that as the case may be, id say that was in spite of the “stringy code”. the point (i think) is that this, and JSX are functionally the same thing, but there are some very large issues with doing this in a string. *edit: clarity
boubiyeah 8y ago
what if it being more productive for you has nothing to do with these magic strings? :)
BigJono 8y ago
I'm calling bullshit on all these claims of "massive productivity boosts" when switching to Vue. What on earth were you doing in React that was so unproductive? Maybe if you're bogging yourself down with a bunch of absolute garbage like immutable and redux-saga, but you can hardly blame React then.
- daliusd 8y ago
  What's wrong with redux-saga? What alternatives do you offer to solve problems redux-saga helps to solve?
  - korm 8y ago
    I assume the point is that some people bog themselves down with tools that make them less productive just because they read that it's best practice, without deeper understanding. For example, in most threads about Vue on Reddit, the fact that you can just add Vue as a script tag and start working with it is it's most frequently cited advantage. A small app, especially for most newbies just starting out, doesn't need webpack. But obviously they didn't read the docs and didn't even try the same with React. They just went straight for webpack, even though they shouldn't have. Not to mention CRA exists. Same with immutable and saga. Their benefits are apparent in much bigger applications, and even then there are arguably simpler and better tools like Immer, update-immutable, redux-thunk, redux-promise-middleware or even rolling out your own middleware.
    - daliusd 8y ago
      Why beginner would try that with React? Official documentation does not even offer this approach. Meanwhile Vue.js official documentation gives basics first with this approach.

rickycook 8y ago

that as the case may be, id say that was in spite of the “stringy code”. the point (i think) is that this, and JSX are functionally the same thing, but there are some very large issues with doing this in a string. *edit: clarity

boubiyeah 8y ago

what if it being more productive for you has nothing to do with these magic strings? :)

BigJono 8y ago

I'm calling bullshit on all these claims of "massive productivity boosts" when switching to Vue. What on earth were you doing in React that was so unproductive? Maybe if you're bogging yourself down with a bunch of absolute garbage like immutable and redux-saga, but you can hardly blame React then.

daliusd 8y ago
What's wrong with redux-saga? What alternatives do you offer to solve problems redux-saga helps to solve?
- korm 8y ago
  I assume the point is that some people bog themselves down with tools that make them less productive just because they read that it's best practice, without deeper understanding. For example, in most threads about Vue on Reddit, the fact that you can just add Vue as a script tag and start working with it is it's most frequently cited advantage. A small app, especially for most newbies just starting out, doesn't need webpack. But obviously they didn't read the docs and didn't even try the same with React. They just went straight for webpack, even though they shouldn't have. Not to mention CRA exists. Same with immutable and saga. Their benefits are apparent in much bigger applications, and even then there are arguably simpler and better tools like Immer, update-immutable, redux-thunk, redux-promise-middleware or even rolling out your own middleware.
  - daliusd 8y ago
    Why beginner would try that with React? Official documentation does not even offer this approach. Meanwhile Vue.js official documentation gives basics first with this approach.