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Interesting, I'm in the US and I think of GCP as the best of the three factoring cost and reliability of their features. For AWS it seems like to get things th

by 0xCMP 8y ago

Interesting, I'm in the US and I think of GCP as the best of the three factoring cost and reliability of their features. For AWS it seems like to get things that "work" you almost always need to do it yourself instead of using Amazon's offerings. For Google you may not want to get locked in, but the offerings seem to offer some really good benefits and work correctly. Maybe this is just "grass is greener" thinking, but what is the experience using GCP like?

bdibs 8y ago
I’ve only been using GCP for a few weeks now, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. So far, I really enjoy how the UI seems consistent, compared to AWS where different products seem like they are from a completely different service. As for the products themselves, everything just works. For their Kubernetes platform, GKE, they provide an excellent UI to do almost anything. Auto scaling any workloads, deploying new workloads all through the UI (no manual YAML creation), performing rolling updates, it all just works. Their Stackdriver product automatically logs all output from your GKE pods, and can even alert you with a concise summary of crashing errors (I caught a couple panics from a Go service with it). Overall I’d say it’s been great so far, and much cheaper than AWS. I haven’t used Azure in any capacity, so I’m unsure how it would stack up.
- threeseed 8y ago
  > So far, I really enjoy how the UI seems consistent, compared to AWS where different products seem like they are from a completely different service. There is a reason for this. AWS moves early and moves quickly. Whereas Google may wait until a product is perfectly designed AWS gets it out in beta in one region and then expands from there. And they bring this pace to product improvement which is pretty amazing: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/
  - joshuamorton 8y ago
    I hear the opposite from most people, that gcp moves more quickly and has alpha and beta products and aws doesn't. So this confused me.
    - kenhwang 8y ago
      It just depends on which provider you have an enterprise relationship with. They all have a bunch of closed alpha/betas that you simply need to ask your account manager to join.
    - threeseed 8y ago
      AWS has Preview products which are released to the public and they handle rollout on a region by region basis. AWS has 10x the number of products of GCP and still maintains a rapid pace.
weixiyen 8y ago
Nothing but good experience with GCP, and fast response times from their customer support. Was surprised to see that it was perceived as "failing"
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wstrange 8y ago
Our experience with GKE has been excellent. EDIT: I should also add that our account sales team have been outstanding. We are not (yet) a big customer - but they have been very responsive to our questions. My take is they are trying very hard to be enterprise friendly.
threeseed 8y ago
> For AWS it seems like to get things that "work" you almost always need to do it yourself instead of using Amazon's offerings. So our company spends tens of millions a month with AWS across our 50+ teams. Never once heard of AWS services not working and never once saw people needing to roll their own replacement Redis, PostgreSQL or ElasticSearch instances. And at least with AWS you have options to have these managed services where as the product offering from GCP is extremely limited. Not to mention that GCP is absent entirely from the serverless discussion which is a game changer. Can you be more specific as to why GCP implements things correctly and AWS doesn't ?
- tejohnso 8y ago
  > Not to mention that GCP is absent entirely from the serverless discussion which is a game changer. Can you clarify what you mean here?
- rhodysurf 8y ago
  Arent GAE and FireBase part of GCP which are both very much serverless products?
  - dboreham 8y ago
    And GCF
- manigandham 8y ago
  GCP does have limited Cloud Functions available, and is now working on Serverless Containers* product to let you run any container.
  - cobookman 8y ago
    I'd recommend taking a look at App Engine. I've got services that have been running on there untouched for years. Really amazing especially how gae can scale from 0 to 1 instances quickly.
- timdorr 8y ago
sandGorgon 8y ago
GCP turns out to be more expensive for stuff like databases because they don't give out committed use and yearly pricing.

by 0xCMP 8y ago

bdibs 8y ago

I’ve only been using GCP for a few weeks now, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. So far, I really enjoy how the UI seems consistent, compared to AWS where different products seem like they are from a completely different service. As for the products themselves, everything just works. For their Kubernetes platform, GKE, they provide an excellent UI to do almost anything. Auto scaling any workloads, deploying new workloads all through the UI (no manual YAML creation), performing rolling updates, it all just works. Their Stackdriver product automatically logs all output from your GKE pods, and can even alert you with a concise summary of crashing errors (I caught a couple panics from a Go service with it). Overall I’d say it’s been great so far, and much cheaper than AWS. I haven’t used Azure in any capacity, so I’m unsure how it would stack up.

threeseed 8y ago
> So far, I really enjoy how the UI seems consistent, compared to AWS where different products seem like they are from a completely different service. There is a reason for this. AWS moves early and moves quickly. Whereas Google may wait until a product is perfectly designed AWS gets it out in beta in one region and then expands from there. And they bring this pace to product improvement which is pretty amazing: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2018/
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  I hear the opposite from most people, that gcp moves more quickly and has alpha and beta products and aws doesn't. So this confused me.
  - kenhwang 8y ago
    It just depends on which provider you have an enterprise relationship with. They all have a bunch of closed alpha/betas that you simply need to ask your account manager to join.
  - threeseed 8y ago
    AWS has Preview products which are released to the public and they handle rollout on a region by region basis. AWS has 10x the number of products of GCP and still maintains a rapid pace.

weixiyen 8y ago

Nothing but good experience with GCP, and fast response times from their customer support. Was surprised to see that it was perceived as "failing"

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wstrange 8y ago

Our experience with GKE has been excellent. EDIT: I should also add that our account sales team have been outstanding. We are not (yet) a big customer - but they have been very responsive to our questions. My take is they are trying very hard to be enterprise friendly.

threeseed 8y ago

> For AWS it seems like to get things that "work" you almost always need to do it yourself instead of using Amazon's offerings. So our company spends tens of millions a month with AWS across our 50+ teams. Never once heard of AWS services not working and never once saw people needing to roll their own replacement Redis, PostgreSQL or ElasticSearch instances. And at least with AWS you have options to have these managed services where as the product offering from GCP is extremely limited. Not to mention that GCP is absent entirely from the serverless discussion which is a game changer. Can you be more specific as to why GCP implements things correctly and AWS doesn't ?

tejohnso 8y ago
> Not to mention that GCP is absent entirely from the serverless discussion which is a game changer. Can you clarify what you mean here?
rhodysurf 8y ago
Arent GAE and FireBase part of GCP which are both very much serverless products?
- dboreham 8y ago
  And GCF
manigandham 8y ago
GCP does have limited Cloud Functions available, and is now working on Serverless Containers* product to let you run any container.
- cobookman 8y ago
  I'd recommend taking a look at App Engine. I've got services that have been running on there untouched for years. Really amazing especially how gae can scale from 0 to 1 instances quickly.
timdorr 8y ago

sandGorgon 8y ago

GCP turns out to be more expensive for stuff like databases because they don't give out committed use and yearly pricing.