Couldn't agree more, the bar for entry with MS tools is very low, so it's not a surprise that lots of applications written with them suck. The biggest problem

Couldn't agree more, the bar for entry with MS tools is very low, so it's not a surprise that lots of applications written with them suck. The biggest problem I have with MS tools in my day job is usually getting the 3rd party add on tools to work. And those are often license problems...