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Ask HN: What is a good book to learn about the network stack?

81 points by piinbinary 8y ago

I'm primarily interested in the network stack on linux, with a focus on TCP (but it would still be good to understand the lower layers)

stargrazer 8y ago
from a programming perspective or a configuration perspective or ?
dlo83 8y ago
I'd recommend Patterns in Network Architecture by John Day. I had him as a professor at Boston University and loved hearing his war stories from his days working on ARPANET. https://www.amazon.com/DAY-PATTS-NET-ARCHITECTURE-_p1/dp/0137063385 https://www.amazon.com/DAY-PATTS-NET-ARCHITECTURE-_p1/dp/013...
lingz 8y ago
Networking: A Top Down Approach is a great and clear read.
- arduinomancer 8y ago
  Yup. Only textbook in undergrad I've actually read a large amount of, ended up reading a good 3/4 of the book.
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epynonymous 8y ago
tcp/ip illustrated 1&2, by richard stevens, this is the bible of networking, it covers all the different osi layers, address spaces, protocols, packet layout, etc. if you want to understand how netwokring really works, this guves you all the details.
ArtWomb 8y ago
Ilya Grigorik"s High Performance Browser Networking is a great open-access backgrounder. Very up to date on modern topics such as WebRTC and WebSockets https://hpbn.co/ https://hpbn.co/ Another comprehensive overall reference is Michael Kerrisk"s Linux Programming Interface handbook https://nostarch.com/tlpi https://nostarch.com/tlpi And to see some of the latest developments. Check out talks from Linux NetDev Conference archives https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCribHdOMgiD5R3OUDgx2qTg/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCribHdOMgiD5R3OUDgx2qTg/vid... Finally, this was recently posted, and I believe the author is working on another one for QUIC... "The Illustrated TLS Connection: Every byte of a TLS connection explained and reproduced" https://tls.ulfheim.net/ https://tls.ulfheim.net/ Best of luck, and you are on the right path. Master the fundamentals and the rest will follow ;)
dpeck 8y ago
Start with NoStarch TCP/IP Guide and then move onto TCP/IP Illustrated. If you get through both of those and understand it you’lol have a far better grasp of networking than nearly everyone else in the business.
techjuice 8y ago
I recommend reading the following books/presentations, I have read all of them several times and it has given me a very lucrative, wonderful deep understanding of TCP/IP (including UDP), programming network connected applications, creating complex network diagrams, and being able to perfectly talk with all individuals in networking from the non-technical to telco engineers, work as an embedded engineer, network engineer and more. TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1: The Protocols TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 2: The Implementation Network Flow Analysis Computer Networking: A Top-Down Approach Introduction to Sockets Programming in C using TCP/IP Beej's Guide to Network Programming Programming and Automating Cisco Networks CCNA Routing and Switching Official Cert Guide CCNA Datacenter Official Cert Guide CCNP ROUTE, SWITCH, and TSHOOT Lab Manuals CCIE and CCDE Evolving Technologies Study Guide I would highly recommend getting a cheap certification rack from Amazon once you get better book knowledge (CCNA/CCNP Collab, Wireless and Routing and Switching) to increase your knowledge 20x. When I did not have my own hardware there were just so many questions and things I wanted to do that were very complex or not possible to do with training simulators, books, etc. With the high quality managed switches you can see how your apps can affect the network, integrate your work with network connected devices, automate network devices and many more things that wouldn't give you as deep as an understanding when using an unmanaged network (e.g. create your own software that runs on routers, switches, VOIP phones and linux servers).
- IOT_Apprentice 8y ago
  Any parts list recommendation to build out a cheap network gear from Amazon, newegg etc?
  - techjuice 8y ago
    3x Cisco Catalyst 3750G-48PS Port switch, a few GBICs if you want to play with the fiber connectivity. 3x Cisco 2901 Routers, insure you get at least the T1 modules and cables. Make sure you buy the gear with mounting kits so you can rack them, along with purchasing the proper cables. If you want to learn more about VOIP you would need to purchase Cisco CUCM or something similar to Asterisk and possibly the processing modules for the switch/router or buy a switch that already has it licensed. You may also want to get a rack to rack all the equipment as it can get pretty heavy and looks nice and professional when racked. The benefit of getting the older gear is that you can do all this for a few hundred dollars. If you want to learn the new stuff later on it will cost more, but you will know all of the hands on stuff by then and can truly benefit from virtual labs (remotely connected to physical hardware console port).
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weishigoname 8y ago
Linux kernel is very good source to dig network stack, it has L1 - L4 implementation, and there are some books about Linux network stack design online. it is very helpful to read book and dig network stack code together.
badrabbit 8y ago
You specifically want Linux so I would skip all the generic or cisco focused books. Have you read LDD3? http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/ http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/ ,chapter 17 specifically. It's difficult to learn the Linux network stack without knowing C as well.
deanmoriarty 8y ago
Understanding the Linux Kernel, 3rd Edition, https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Linux-Kernel-Third-Daniel/dp/0596005652 https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Linux-Kernel-Third-Dani... It's very hard and dense to read, but I don't think there's a better book out there about a networking stack implementation. It might be too much implementation-focused for your taste though (it was for mine), in which case one of the other books more focused on protocols (already suggested in other comments) might be a better choice.
RamanathanR 8y ago
In addition to the TCP/IP books commonly mentioned, i highly recommend the following two, both by Srinivasan Keshav; * An Engineering Approach to Computer Networking: ATM Networks, the Internet, and the Telephone Network. * Mathematical Foundations of Computer Networking
snissn 8y ago
Beej on sockets is a must read http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/html/multi/index.html http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/html/multi/index.html
terrycody 8y ago
https://www.afternerd.com/blog/learn-computer-science https://www.afternerd.com/blog/learn-computer-science there is a book recommended in this article, it definitely helps!

81 points by piinbinary 8y ago

I'm primarily interested in the network stack on linux, with a focus on TCP (but it would still be good to understand the lower layers)

stargrazer 8y ago

from a programming perspective or a configuration perspective or ?

dlo83 8y ago

I'd recommend Patterns in Network Architecture by John Day. I had him as a professor at Boston University and loved hearing his war stories from his days working on ARPANET. https://www.amazon.com/DAY-PATTS-NET-ARCHITECTURE-_p1/dp/0137063385 https://www.amazon.com/DAY-PATTS-NET-ARCHITECTURE-_p1/dp/013...

lingz 8y ago

Networking: A Top Down Approach is a great and clear read.

arduinomancer 8y ago
Yup. Only textbook in undergrad I've actually read a large amount of, ended up reading a good 3/4 of the book.

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epynonymous 8y ago

tcp/ip illustrated 1&2, by richard stevens, this is the bible of networking, it covers all the different osi layers, address spaces, protocols, packet layout, etc. if you want to understand how netwokring really works, this guves you all the details.

ArtWomb 8y ago

Ilya Grigorik"s High Performance Browser Networking is a great open-access backgrounder. Very up to date on modern topics such as WebRTC and WebSockets https://hpbn.co/ https://hpbn.co/ Another comprehensive overall reference is Michael Kerrisk"s Linux Programming Interface handbook https://nostarch.com/tlpi https://nostarch.com/tlpi And to see some of the latest developments. Check out talks from Linux NetDev Conference archives https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCribHdOMgiD5R3OUDgx2qTg/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCribHdOMgiD5R3OUDgx2qTg/vid... Finally, this was recently posted, and I believe the author is working on another one for QUIC... "The Illustrated TLS Connection: Every byte of a TLS connection explained and reproduced" https://tls.ulfheim.net/ https://tls.ulfheim.net/ Best of luck, and you are on the right path. Master the fundamentals and the rest will follow ;)

dpeck 8y ago

Start with NoStarch TCP/IP Guide and then move onto TCP/IP Illustrated. If you get through both of those and understand it you’lol have a far better grasp of networking than nearly everyone else in the business.

techjuice 8y ago

I recommend reading the following books/presentations, I have read all of them several times and it has given me a very lucrative, wonderful deep understanding of TCP/IP (including UDP), programming network connected applications, creating complex network diagrams, and being able to perfectly talk with all individuals in networking from the non-technical to telco engineers, work as an embedded engineer, network engineer and more. TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 1: The Protocols TCP/IP Illustrated Volume 2: The Implementation Network Flow Analysis Computer Networking: A Top-Down Approach Introduction to Sockets Programming in C using TCP/IP Beej's Guide to Network Programming Programming and Automating Cisco Networks CCNA Routing and Switching Official Cert Guide CCNA Datacenter Official Cert Guide CCNP ROUTE, SWITCH, and TSHOOT Lab Manuals CCIE and CCDE Evolving Technologies Study Guide I would highly recommend getting a cheap certification rack from Amazon once you get better book knowledge (CCNA/CCNP Collab, Wireless and Routing and Switching) to increase your knowledge 20x. When I did not have my own hardware there were just so many questions and things I wanted to do that were very complex or not possible to do with training simulators, books, etc. With the high quality managed switches you can see how your apps can affect the network, integrate your work with network connected devices, automate network devices and many more things that wouldn't give you as deep as an understanding when using an unmanaged network (e.g. create your own software that runs on routers, switches, VOIP phones and linux servers).

IOT_Apprentice 8y ago
Any parts list recommendation to build out a cheap network gear from Amazon, newegg etc?
- techjuice 8y ago
  3x Cisco Catalyst 3750G-48PS Port switch, a few GBICs if you want to play with the fiber connectivity. 3x Cisco 2901 Routers, insure you get at least the T1 modules and cables. Make sure you buy the gear with mounting kits so you can rack them, along with purchasing the proper cables. If you want to learn more about VOIP you would need to purchase Cisco CUCM or something similar to Asterisk and possibly the processing modules for the switch/router or buy a switch that already has it licensed. You may also want to get a rack to rack all the equipment as it can get pretty heavy and looks nice and professional when racked. The benefit of getting the older gear is that you can do all this for a few hundred dollars. If you want to learn the new stuff later on it will cost more, but you will know all of the hands on stuff by then and can truly benefit from virtual labs (remotely connected to physical hardware console port).

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weishigoname 8y ago

Linux kernel is very good source to dig network stack, it has L1 - L4 implementation, and there are some books about Linux network stack design online. it is very helpful to read book and dig network stack code together.

badrabbit 8y ago

You specifically want Linux so I would skip all the generic or cisco focused books. Have you read LDD3? http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/ http://www.makelinux.net/ldd3/ ,chapter 17 specifically. It's difficult to learn the Linux network stack without knowing C as well.

deanmoriarty 8y ago

Understanding the Linux Kernel, 3rd Edition, https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Linux-Kernel-Third-Daniel/dp/0596005652 https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Linux-Kernel-Third-Dani... It's very hard and dense to read, but I don't think there's a better book out there about a networking stack implementation. It might be too much implementation-focused for your taste though (it was for mine), in which case one of the other books more focused on protocols (already suggested in other comments) might be a better choice.

RamanathanR 8y ago

In addition to the TCP/IP books commonly mentioned, i highly recommend the following two, both by Srinivasan Keshav; * An Engineering Approach to Computer Networking: ATM Networks, the Internet, and the Telephone Network. * Mathematical Foundations of Computer Networking

snissn 8y ago

Beej on sockets is a must read http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/html/multi/index.html http://beej.us/guide/bgnet/html/multi/index.html

terrycody 8y ago

https://www.afternerd.com/blog/learn-computer-science https://www.afternerd.com/blog/learn-computer-science there is a book recommended in this article, it definitely helps!