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Look at Japan: 23-day police custody period. After that there’s a 99.99% confession rate. Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan, seems to have just discovered it: H

Look at Japan: 23-day police custody period. After that there’s a 99.99% confession rate. Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan, seems to have just discovered it: He will be interrogated for 12 days. I would never go to such countries.

dec0dedab0de 8y ago
That is the conviction rate, not the confession rate. Which has completely different connotations.
- Animats 8y ago
  Mark Karpelès, the Mt. Gox guy, was arrested in Japan, interrogated, and he still got off.
- mc32 8y ago
  Indeed, the conviction rate has much to do with police picking “open and shut” cases. Which is why there are cases where murders are instead classified as accidents, if itd be hard to prove a case.
Latteland 8y ago
Japan is not going to torture him, keep him up without letting him sleep are they? They have the rule of law and generally treat people well. You can't seriously compare those countries, can you?
- Cyph0n 8y ago
  It’s definitely much better than KSA, but 23 days in police custody? Most people would break under the pressure alone - no torture necessary...
  - jacobush 8y ago
    Try Sweden... 365 days of policy custody.
    - kpil 8y ago
      There's no limit that I know of.
      - jacobush 8y ago
        No, you are correct, there's no limit.
  - ap3 8y ago
    It all depends on the conditions, if you have access to an attorney and are in general safe situations I would take that than say 1 day in a mexican prison run by the drug cartel
- rurban 8y ago
  What I heard about treating foreigners in Japanese police stations qualifies indeed as torture. The rule of law applies when you confess.
liftbigweights 8y ago
> After that there’s a 99.99% confession rate. That's because prosecutors in Japan and other countries generally go after "sure" cases. Canada has a 97% conviction. US has a 93% conviction rate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate > Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan, seems to have just discovered it: He will be interrogated for 12 days. I would never go to such countries. At least he'll get court case rather than disappearing in a japanese embassy. Japan has its problem but it's absurd to compare it to the horrors in the middle east.
stefan_ 8y ago
Pre-trial detention isn't exactly a japanese invention.

dec0dedab0de 8y ago

That is the conviction rate, not the confession rate. Which has completely different connotations.

Animats 8y ago
Mark Karpelès, the Mt. Gox guy, was arrested in Japan, interrogated, and he still got off.
mc32 8y ago
Indeed, the conviction rate has much to do with police picking “open and shut” cases. Which is why there are cases where murders are instead classified as accidents, if itd be hard to prove a case.

Latteland 8y ago

Japan is not going to torture him, keep him up without letting him sleep are they? They have the rule of law and generally treat people well. You can't seriously compare those countries, can you?

Cyph0n 8y ago
It’s definitely much better than KSA, but 23 days in police custody? Most people would break under the pressure alone - no torture necessary...
- jacobush 8y ago
  Try Sweden... 365 days of policy custody.
  - kpil 8y ago
    There's no limit that I know of.
    - jacobush 8y ago
      No, you are correct, there's no limit.
- ap3 8y ago
  It all depends on the conditions, if you have access to an attorney and are in general safe situations I would take that than say 1 day in a mexican prison run by the drug cartel
rurban 8y ago
What I heard about treating foreigners in Japanese police stations qualifies indeed as torture. The rule of law applies when you confess.

liftbigweights 8y ago

> After that there’s a 99.99% confession rate. That's because prosecutors in Japan and other countries generally go after "sure" cases. Canada has a 97% conviction. US has a 93% conviction rate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate > Carlos Ghosn, president of Nissan, seems to have just discovered it: He will be interrogated for 12 days. I would never go to such countries. At least he'll get court case rather than disappearing in a japanese embassy. Japan has its problem but it's absurd to compare it to the horrors in the middle east.

stefan_ 8y ago

Pre-trial detention isn't exactly a japanese invention.