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If we're talking about news.google.com, then yeh it's ridiculous. That site is just headline links. It's not "content", it's a list of text links. The foundat

If we're talking about news.google.com, then yeh it's ridiculous. That site is just headline links. It's not "content", it's a list of text links. The foundation of the web is text links. So the EU wants to charge for HTML links. Struggling to see the logic there. Users click those links, read the story content, and end up on the news website. That is the fair transaction right there, no money needed. Unless I'm missing something? Is this about the web or app? I don't use the google app so not sure if clicking links just opens a web view in app?

malmsteen 8y ago
Well its different when the value of the page is precisely the title + summary of other pages. That said its a bit of a last attempt from newspaper to get money when news nowadays is pretty much free
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O1111OOO 8y ago
> The foundation of the web is text links. So the EU wants to charge for HTML links. What's scary here is how this would effect other aggregators of news: HN, reddit, automated online RSS Feeds, etc. These kinds of overreaching regulations don't happen in a bubble, they trickle down to everyone. So the question: why is Google specifically targeted? Is this part of the Big Tech Backlash[0] - specifically... the flow and control of information? Or is it more like a Netflix thing, where I think that 'The Old Guard' News Orgs may be overvaluing themselves. Also, it was my understanding that News Organizations voluntarily submitted and made an effort to be compliant with Google News[1]. That is, Google News doesn't display news source data without permission (I think they did early on?). I'm certain that if Google (or other large-scale News aggregator) required permission to be listed, most news orgs (enough to make a viable product) would happily comply. [0] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22The%22+%22EU%22+Tech+Backlash&norw=1&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22The%22+%22EU%22+Tech+Backlash&n... [1] https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/40787?hl=en https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/4078...

malmsteen 8y ago

Well its different when the value of the page is precisely the title + summary of other pages. That said its a bit of a last attempt from newspaper to get money when news nowadays is pretty much free

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O1111OOO 8y ago

> The foundation of the web is text links. So the EU wants to charge for HTML links. What's scary here is how this would effect other aggregators of news: HN, reddit, automated online RSS Feeds, etc. These kinds of overreaching regulations don't happen in a bubble, they trickle down to everyone. So the question: why is Google specifically targeted? Is this part of the Big Tech Backlash[0] - specifically... the flow and control of information? Or is it more like a Netflix thing, where I think that 'The Old Guard' News Orgs may be overvaluing themselves. Also, it was my understanding that News Organizations voluntarily submitted and made an effort to be compliant with Google News[1]. That is, Google News doesn't display news source data without permission (I think they did early on?). I'm certain that if Google (or other large-scale News aggregator) required permission to be listed, most news orgs (enough to make a viable product) would happily comply. [0] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22The%22+%22EU%22+Tech+Backlash&norw=1&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22The%22+%22EU%22+Tech+Backlash&n... [1] https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/40787?hl=en https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/4078...