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The cat argument is completely off base IMO. The "AI" has an almost perfect motivating lever for humans: economics. A super-intelligent AI that wanted to manip

by titzer 8y ago

The cat argument is completely off base IMO. The "AI" has an almost perfect motivating lever for humans: economics. A super-intelligent AI that wanted to manipulate humans could do a lot with the stock market to feed money to its long term interests. What long term interests might those be? More servers? More storage? More hardware? More software? More AI research? Better, more programmable chips? Eyes everywhere? Robots? Automation? More control? More insight into how literally _everything_ works? Everything humans do and like? Learn how to speak all the human languages? Imagine there was a super intelligent AI hiding in the internet _already_. Terrifying how well what we're doing aligns with what it would want. And equally terrifying is the gradient of economic advantage which is absolutely aligned with putting all of our money into tech. Transhumanism, mind uploading. We're fucking hypnotized. And those who unwittingly contribute to more tech (probably all of us here), just play right into its hands. Our interests line up wonderfully. And most of us here are rewarded with outsized salaries and stock, free food, benefits, benefits, benefits. Well played, AI. /tongue-in-cheek

TeMPOraL 8y ago
> Transhumanism, mind uploading. We're fucking hypnotized. Almost. If this is what the AI wants, then it's doing a really bad job. The way current tech culture is, any other concern than making money will get you labeled as crazy. This applies even to Maciej's writing. For trying to make a short-term profit, you'll be judged as good, serious person or bad, evil monster, depending on the way you approach it. But try to advocate for any tech for reasons other than short-term monetary gains, and you get labeled crazy. This very article is implicitly doing it as well.
- titzer 8y ago
  Interesting point. I think the transhumanism and mind uploading stuff is in the back of people's heads, but what you say about getting labeled crazy for not focusing on the money might actually support the thesis I was going for, that the AI is already here and we are serving it. Which, ultimately, is kind of unfalsifiable, since finding a super-intelligent AI if it wants to hide would be a losing battle, which is why I put this up tongue-in-cheek. My actual belief is closer to "we are the neurons in a giant distributed overmind linked with whatever communication technology is available at hand." In this view, we're just gradually offloading the computation from human brains into computers, and it's a continuous process. In short, we're desperately piling our knowledge into this magic cauldron hoping it will figure it all out for us. What's gonna pop out?
titzer 8y ago
By the way, we specifically designed a mechanism explicitly for mass persuasion: online advertisting. We've been working diligently to integrate it into everyone's daily experience. You're welcome, hidden AI overlord!

by titzer 8y ago

TeMPOraL 8y ago

> Transhumanism, mind uploading. We're fucking hypnotized. Almost. If this is what the AI wants, then it's doing a really bad job. The way current tech culture is, any other concern than making money will get you labeled as crazy. This applies even to Maciej's writing. For trying to make a short-term profit, you'll be judged as good, serious person or bad, evil monster, depending on the way you approach it. But try to advocate for any tech for reasons other than short-term monetary gains, and you get labeled crazy. This very article is implicitly doing it as well.

titzer 8y ago
Interesting point. I think the transhumanism and mind uploading stuff is in the back of people's heads, but what you say about getting labeled crazy for not focusing on the money might actually support the thesis I was going for, that the AI is already here and we are serving it. Which, ultimately, is kind of unfalsifiable, since finding a super-intelligent AI if it wants to hide would be a losing battle, which is why I put this up tongue-in-cheek. My actual belief is closer to "we are the neurons in a giant distributed overmind linked with whatever communication technology is available at hand." In this view, we're just gradually offloading the computation from human brains into computers, and it's a continuous process. In short, we're desperately piling our knowledge into this magic cauldron hoping it will figure it all out for us. What's gonna pop out?

titzer 8y ago

By the way, we specifically designed a mechanism explicitly for mass persuasion: online advertisting. We've been working diligently to integrate it into everyone's daily experience. You're welcome, hidden AI overlord!