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But is it possible with the technology we have discovered so far? > It is without question possible, because we exist. It is also possible to do it quickly, be

But is it possible with the technology we have discovered so far? > It is without question possible, because we exist. It is also possible to do it quickly, because again, we exist. It's apparent that we don't know everything.

darawk 8y ago
> But is it possible with the technology we have discovered so far? I think I feel comfortable saying that it is possible to do with the technology we have. Because 'intelligence' is almost certainly some form of computable function, which means that a turing complete computer can compute it. It is of course possible that there exists some special function outside of turing completeness and intelligence is one of those, but we don't know of anything like that, so the best bet to make is that that is not the case. > It's apparent that we don't know everything. No, but we do know some things. And thus far we've been able to at least begin to design systems capable of performing any well-defined task. We don't have any reason, at the moment, to believe synthesizing an intelligence is an especially difficult problem, relative to say, lots of other open problems in science and technology.
- jcoffland 8y ago
  Turing computable does not mean it can be computed in a reasonable amount of time with a classical computer. There are many things that are known to be computable that we will never be able to compute on a classical or even quantum computer. We do not know that the brain is not quantum equivalent or better.
  - darawk 8y ago
    We also have no reason to believe that it is. Sure, it's possible that we'll happen to discover an algorithm less efficient at computing the 'intelligence' function than our brains. We may also discover one more efficient. We can't really say much at all about it at this time.
    - jcoffland 8y ago
      Agreed. I think we are still a long way off but some essential discovery could be just around the corner.

darawk 8y ago

> But is it possible with the technology we have discovered so far? I think I feel comfortable saying that it is possible to do with the technology we have. Because 'intelligence' is almost certainly some form of computable function, which means that a turing complete computer can compute it. It is of course possible that there exists some special function outside of turing completeness and intelligence is one of those, but we don't know of anything like that, so the best bet to make is that that is not the case. > It's apparent that we don't know everything. No, but we do know some things. And thus far we've been able to at least begin to design systems capable of performing any well-defined task. We don't have any reason, at the moment, to believe synthesizing an intelligence is an especially difficult problem, relative to say, lots of other open problems in science and technology.

jcoffland 8y ago
Turing computable does not mean it can be computed in a reasonable amount of time with a classical computer. There are many things that are known to be computable that we will never be able to compute on a classical or even quantum computer. We do not know that the brain is not quantum equivalent or better.
- darawk 8y ago
  We also have no reason to believe that it is. Sure, it's possible that we'll happen to discover an algorithm less efficient at computing the 'intelligence' function than our brains. We may also discover one more efficient. We can't really say much at all about it at this time.
  - jcoffland 8y ago
    Agreed. I think we are still a long way off but some essential discovery could be just around the corner.