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This. I managed to build recent Linux on a Pentium MMX Mobile (IIRC) laptop from 1998. A cell phone from 5 years ago can't handle a modern operating system, but

by snazz 8y ago

This. I managed to build recent Linux on a Pentium MMX Mobile (IIRC) laptop from 1998. A cell phone from 5 years ago can't handle a modern operating system, but a 1998 laptop can run Xorg just fine.

metildaa 8y ago
The funny thing is the SoC in these smartphones can totally run Linux & Darwin, but the driver support for the peripherals is shovelware. Vendors do the bare minimum to suppprt the hardware, and you get a mess. Its frankly shocking that the Allwinner A10/A20/A64 (which can run Win10!) /H3/H5/H6 has nearly complete mainline kernel support, whereas nearly any of the smartphones made since 2008 can't boot mainline Linux and drive their cameras, screen, GPS, etc. Its a huge failing of the industry.
- milankragujevic 8y ago
  Allwinner can't run Win10 (hah, A33 can barely run Android :/ ) and has barely any mainline support on actual physical commercial devices (i.e. tablets, not SBCs)...
  - metildaa 8y ago
    I don't know what your on about, Windows 10 can run UWP apps just fine on any Allwinner A64 based device: https://github.com/Leeway213/Win10-IoT-for-A64-Release-Notes/blob/master/20160809/Pine64/ReleaseNotes.md https://github.com/Leeway213/Win10-IoT-for-A64-Release-Notes... With regard to supporting tablets, most of the older Allwinner based tablets have feature parity between the mainline kernel and the vendor BSP kernel: https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort
varjag 8y ago
iPhone 5s is a cell phone from 5 years ago, and it absolutely does run the latest operating system.
kingosticks 8y ago
Just the other day I installed the latest lineageos on my original moto G, I think thats from 2013. And it works great. Edit: actually, when I say 'latest' I mean 'latest available for the moto g'. I'm not 100% sure that's the very latest version that exists.
- pedrocr 8y ago
  >actually, when I say 'latest' I mean 'latest available for the moto g'. I'm not 100% sure that's the very latest version that exists. It's not. You're stuck with an Android that's 2 versions behind current and are still using the original kernel version that shipped with the device.
  - kingosticks 8y ago
    I guess that explains why it works so well.

by snazz 8y ago

This. I managed to build recent Linux on a Pentium MMX Mobile (IIRC) laptop from 1998. A cell phone from 5 years ago can't handle a modern operating system, but a 1998 laptop can run Xorg just fine.

metildaa 8y ago

The funny thing is the SoC in these smartphones can totally run Linux & Darwin, but the driver support for the peripherals is shovelware. Vendors do the bare minimum to suppprt the hardware, and you get a mess. Its frankly shocking that the Allwinner A10/A20/A64 (which can run Win10!) /H3/H5/H6 has nearly complete mainline kernel support, whereas nearly any of the smartphones made since 2008 can't boot mainline Linux and drive their cameras, screen, GPS, etc. Its a huge failing of the industry.

milankragujevic 8y ago
Allwinner can't run Win10 (hah, A33 can barely run Android :/ ) and has barely any mainline support on actual physical commercial devices (i.e. tablets, not SBCs)...
- metildaa 8y ago
  I don't know what your on about, Windows 10 can run UWP apps just fine on any Allwinner A64 based device: https://github.com/Leeway213/Win10-IoT-for-A64-Release-Notes/blob/master/20160809/Pine64/ReleaseNotes.md https://github.com/Leeway213/Win10-IoT-for-A64-Release-Notes... With regard to supporting tablets, most of the older Allwinner based tablets have feature parity between the mainline kernel and the vendor BSP kernel: https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

varjag 8y ago

iPhone 5s is a cell phone from 5 years ago, and it absolutely does run the latest operating system.

kingosticks 8y ago

Just the other day I installed the latest lineageos on my original moto G, I think thats from 2013. And it works great. Edit: actually, when I say 'latest' I mean 'latest available for the moto g'. I'm not 100% sure that's the very latest version that exists.

pedrocr 8y ago
>actually, when I say 'latest' I mean 'latest available for the moto g'. I'm not 100% sure that's the very latest version that exists. It's not. You're stuck with an Android that's 2 versions behind current and are still using the original kernel version that shipped with the device.
- kingosticks 8y ago
  I guess that explains why it works so well.