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It's ironic to me that "openness" is cited as a reason to prevent certain software from being used and enjoyed on a specific platform.

hasenj 16y ago
Who's pulling the software out? Apple.
- BigZaphod 16y ago
  So who lied, then, when they agreed to Apple's explicitly stated terms and gave Apple permission to distribute VLC in this form in the App Store? If VLC gets removed, it's because this developer is essentially demanding that Apple remove it.
  - patrickaljord 16y ago
    The dev who is asking to remove it is not the same as the one who submitted it to the appstore. VLC is foss and as such any contributor is a copyright holder and can ask apple to remove it from the appstore.
    - BigZaphod 16y ago
      I know it's not the same individual that submitted as is making the current complaint. Whomever agreed to Apple's terms told Apple, by way of agreeing to the contract, that they had full rights and authority to grant Apple the right to distribute the app with all the associated restrictions, etc. outlined in the contract. It would seem that when you consider the terms of the GPL, that person did not have the authority to claim such a thing. That person lied or, at best, was simply mistaken. This isn't Apple's fault. That's all I'm saying. Perhaps ultimately we agree on that point.
      - hasenj 16y ago
        You don't get it. Open apps can't get on the iPhone because Apple disallows it. Apple is pulling it out, they control what software can or cannot get in. There's no way for anyone to install anything (legally, and without hassle) on the iTouch devices without Apple's permission.
        StavrosK 16y ago
        There definitely is a perfectly legal and convenient way to install anything: jailbreak it and put whatever you want on it.
        palish 16y ago
        Oooh! Someone said "Jailbreak"! I've been dying to ask: What kinds of awesome things can you do with a jailbroken iPhone? I know you can install VLC + some software to stream videos from some other computer via wifi, which is pretty sweet. What else? I've been considering Jailbreaking, but it would be cool to have a compelling, shiny reason.
        StavrosK 16y ago
        You can install lockinfo: http://thew0rd.com/wp-content/gallery/postrelated/lockinfo.png http://thew0rd.com/wp-content/gallery/postrelated/lockinfo.p...
        palish 16y ago
        Cool! That's definitely shiny! I can do all of that with my current iPhone anyway though. Gimme a reason to void the warranty... god knows I want to!
        StavrosK 16y ago
        Wait, how can you do that with an unjailbroken iPhone?
- jonhendry 16y ago
  The developer submitted it knowing that Apple's distribution approach was incompatible with the license. The developer failed. Apple said up front what they'll do for the developer. That doesn't include "whatever you ask us to do". Apple's completely in the clear. The developer's a moron.

hasenj 16y ago

Who's pulling the software out? Apple.

BigZaphod 16y ago
So who lied, then, when they agreed to Apple's explicitly stated terms and gave Apple permission to distribute VLC in this form in the App Store? If VLC gets removed, it's because this developer is essentially demanding that Apple remove it.
- patrickaljord 16y ago
  The dev who is asking to remove it is not the same as the one who submitted it to the appstore. VLC is foss and as such any contributor is a copyright holder and can ask apple to remove it from the appstore.
  - BigZaphod 16y ago
    I know it's not the same individual that submitted as is making the current complaint. Whomever agreed to Apple's terms told Apple, by way of agreeing to the contract, that they had full rights and authority to grant Apple the right to distribute the app with all the associated restrictions, etc. outlined in the contract. It would seem that when you consider the terms of the GPL, that person did not have the authority to claim such a thing. That person lied or, at best, was simply mistaken. This isn't Apple's fault. That's all I'm saying. Perhaps ultimately we agree on that point.
    - hasenj 16y ago
      You don't get it. Open apps can't get on the iPhone because Apple disallows it. Apple is pulling it out, they control what software can or cannot get in. There's no way for anyone to install anything (legally, and without hassle) on the iTouch devices without Apple's permission.
      - StavrosK 16y ago
        There definitely is a perfectly legal and convenient way to install anything: jailbreak it and put whatever you want on it.
        palish 16y ago
        Oooh! Someone said "Jailbreak"! I've been dying to ask: What kinds of awesome things can you do with a jailbroken iPhone? I know you can install VLC + some software to stream videos from some other computer via wifi, which is pretty sweet. What else? I've been considering Jailbreaking, but it would be cool to have a compelling, shiny reason.
        StavrosK 16y ago
        You can install lockinfo: http://thew0rd.com/wp-content/gallery/postrelated/lockinfo.png http://thew0rd.com/wp-content/gallery/postrelated/lockinfo.p...
        palish 16y ago
        Cool! That's definitely shiny! I can do all of that with my current iPhone anyway though. Gimme a reason to void the warranty... god knows I want to!
        StavrosK 16y ago
        Wait, how can you do that with an unjailbroken iPhone?
jonhendry 16y ago
The developer submitted it knowing that Apple's distribution approach was incompatible with the license. The developer failed. Apple said up front what they'll do for the developer. That doesn't include "whatever you ask us to do". Apple's completely in the clear. The developer's a moron.