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This is poppycock. $10,000 a person is a lie unless maybe if you moved all the homeless from the West Coast to the middle of nowhere in Midwest, but then you w

This is poppycock. $10,000 a person is a lie unless maybe if you moved all the homeless from the West Coast to the middle of nowhere in Midwest, but then you would have homeless activists and Midwest NIMBY activists saying that the government is shipping people out to solve the problem. The activists have politicized every direction of this issue to the point where it's easier to just forget about the homeless rather than try to solve the problem. Most homeless need mental health care and should be forced into mental wards but then you have mental health activists that will protest against this. Other activists would complain that they are gentrifying SF and kicking out all the poor people. Basically anyone who tries to solve this problem politically can't win because there will be some activist that protests against it to make a name for themselves and it turns into a hotbed issue by the media.

CuriouslyC 8y ago
There are people living on a few dollars a day... You really think we can't provide a cot in the equivalent of a walk in closet with communal bathrooms, and simple meals like beans and rice with a few vegetables for $10k/year?
- docker_up 8y ago
  Only if you ship them to a very low cost area, and then you immediately run into political issues as I mentioned, like shipping away your poor and gentrifying the area for rich people. Beans and rice? That's a terrible, unhealthy meal! You need to give them a balanced diet! How could you kill these poor people? Communal bathrooms? That's for criminals and it spreads disease! A walk in closet? These are human beings we're talking about! They're not prisoners, don't treat them like that! They need space! And that's how it becomes an unsolvable problem. Activists with agendas.
  - eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
    There will always be people like that, but your explanation just comes off to me as excuses to do nothing and continue the status quo.
idontpost 8y ago
> Most homeless need mental health care and should be forced into mental wards but then you have mental health activists that will protest against this. Because conservatives destroyed mental health care in this country. Not that it was ever good, but it used to exist, until it was systematically dismantled in the 1980s and all the patients were sent out to become … take a guess … that's right … our current chronic homeless population! Start by (re)building an actual mental health care system if you want to go that route.

CuriouslyC 8y ago

There are people living on a few dollars a day... You really think we can't provide a cot in the equivalent of a walk in closet with communal bathrooms, and simple meals like beans and rice with a few vegetables for $10k/year?

docker_up 8y ago
Only if you ship them to a very low cost area, and then you immediately run into political issues as I mentioned, like shipping away your poor and gentrifying the area for rich people. Beans and rice? That's a terrible, unhealthy meal! You need to give them a balanced diet! How could you kill these poor people? Communal bathrooms? That's for criminals and it spreads disease! A walk in closet? These are human beings we're talking about! They're not prisoners, don't treat them like that! They need space! And that's how it becomes an unsolvable problem. Activists with agendas.
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
  There will always be people like that, but your explanation just comes off to me as excuses to do nothing and continue the status quo.

idontpost 8y ago

> Most homeless need mental health care and should be forced into mental wards but then you have mental health activists that will protest against this. Because conservatives destroyed mental health care in this country. Not that it was ever good, but it used to exist, until it was systematically dismantled in the 1980s and all the patients were sent out to become … take a guess … that's right … our current chronic homeless population! Start by (re)building an actual mental health care system if you want to go that route.