>Side note - couldn't you make a similar argument about any kind of further abstraction? "Question for all you hackers out there - do you really need HTTP reque

>Side note - couldn't you make a similar argument about any kind of further abstraction? "Question for all you hackers out there - do you really need HTTP requests with their complicated headers and status codes and keepalive timeouts? I run several apps just sending plain text over TCP sockets and it works fine." No, because the end users already have an HTTP browser. Your analogy doesn't work because switching between k8s and lamp stacks is invisible to your users where dumping HTTP means you need dedicated clients.