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What other strategies, like this one, have been invented which feels like a more offensive counterforce against the slow surveillance tide, in contrast to the m

by tw1010 8y ago

What other strategies, like this one, have been invented which feels like a more offensive counterforce against the slow surveillance tide, in contrast to the more common defensive strategies that just tries to keep one step ahead of the arms race (e.g. better encryption)?

agumonkey 8y ago
There's a french guy, part of an activist group that likes to invent passive trolling strategies to fight bad groups (lobbies, governments). For instance they robbed some stupid furnitures from a bank that just avoided some fraud scandal so they start to sue the group. A big company starting a lawsuit to get some chair was super negative to their image. I'll try to find his name again.
- fredley 8y ago
  That reminds me of the group that closed a valve on an oil pipeline[1]. The aim was to bring the case to trial, so that they could claim that they were acting legally, as the alternative (letting the pipeline continue to operate) was a direct threat to them, by its contribution to climate change. The case got thrown out[2], because the prosecution couldn't provide enough evidence that the shutters off had done any damage, which sets the stage for a second attempt... 1: https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-reinventing-climate-activism/ https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-rein... 2: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/09/climate-change-activists-necessity-defense-charges-dropped https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/09/climate-...
- maeln 8y ago
  It's the association Attac : https://france.attac.org/agenda/article/proces-d-une-militante-d-attac-suite-a-une-action-de-fauchage-de-chaises https://france.attac.org/agenda/article/proces-d-une-militan... They often do this kind of operations. See there recent operation about Apple not paying taxes : https://www.macg.co/aapl/2018/11/attac-redecore-lapple-store-des-champs-elysees-maj-104261 https://www.macg.co/aapl/2018/11/attac-redecore-lapple-store... Attac means: Association pour la taxation des transactions financières et pour l'action citoyenne (Association for the taxation of financial transaction and for citizen/civil action)
  - agumonkey 8y ago
    I didn't know the name of the association, the guy name is jon palais (part of attac it seems yeah) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jon+palais+&atb=v119-3__&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jon+palais+&atb=v119-3__&iar=video... His thinkerview video is worth watching (for french speakers)
david_at 8y ago
https://www.grassland.network/ https://www.grassland.network/

by tw1010 8y ago

agumonkey 8y ago

There's a french guy, part of an activist group that likes to invent passive trolling strategies to fight bad groups (lobbies, governments). For instance they robbed some stupid furnitures from a bank that just avoided some fraud scandal so they start to sue the group. A big company starting a lawsuit to get some chair was super negative to their image. I'll try to find his name again.

fredley 8y ago
That reminds me of the group that closed a valve on an oil pipeline[1]. The aim was to bring the case to trial, so that they could claim that they were acting legally, as the alternative (letting the pipeline continue to operate) was a direct threat to them, by its contribution to climate change. The case got thrown out[2], because the prosecution couldn't provide enough evidence that the shutters off had done any damage, which sets the stage for a second attempt... 1: https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-reinventing-climate-activism/ https://www.wired.com/story/monkeywrenching-vandals-are-rein... 2: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/09/climate-change-activists-necessity-defense-charges-dropped https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/09/climate-...
maeln 8y ago
It's the association Attac : https://france.attac.org/agenda/article/proces-d-une-militante-d-attac-suite-a-une-action-de-fauchage-de-chaises https://france.attac.org/agenda/article/proces-d-une-militan... They often do this kind of operations. See there recent operation about Apple not paying taxes : https://www.macg.co/aapl/2018/11/attac-redecore-lapple-store-des-champs-elysees-maj-104261 https://www.macg.co/aapl/2018/11/attac-redecore-lapple-store... Attac means: Association pour la taxation des transactions financières et pour l'action citoyenne (Association for the taxation of financial transaction and for citizen/civil action)
- agumonkey 8y ago
  I didn't know the name of the association, the guy name is jon palais (part of attac it seems yeah) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jon+palais+&atb=v119-3__&iar=videos&iax=videos&ia=videos https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jon+palais+&atb=v119-3__&iar=video... His thinkerview video is worth watching (for french speakers)

david_at 8y ago

https://www.grassland.network/ https://www.grassland.network/