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I'm sorry, but this thread is really just politics. I know Paul Buchheit's own submission of Paul Buchheit's article about why Paul Buchheit donated some money

by hugh3 16y ago

I'm sorry, but this thread is really just politics. I know Paul Buchheit's own submission of Paul Buchheit's article about why Paul Buchheit donated some money to a political cause has Buckley's chance of being deleted, but, y'know, it really is just political advocacy on a subject unrelated to anything other than politics. I hate to be a dick here, Paul, but, y'know.

delano 16y ago
It's okay to believe in something.
thompo 16y ago
you really can't see the potential start-up opportunities that will come forth through the legalization of a substance that millions of people use worldwide? well at least i know you won't be my competition. keep on keeping on man.
- 0-4 16y ago
  You really want think creating a drug based startup is a good idea? Who would buy it? No one would advertise on it. No users would pay for it. And it would be morally questionable. But if that's what floats your boat...
  - ThomPete 16y ago
    What do you mean no one would? I would if it would connect with my target group.
  - deleted 16y ago
    [deleted]
  - cullenking 16y ago
    No, but buying up drug based domains in the event that it becomes a legal market doesn't sound too bad.... cough oregoncannabis.com oregonbud.com cough
  - thompo 16y ago
    Morally questionable to who? You? Yes I think starting a cannabis related startup is a good idea. I live in Colorado where we have over 100,000 medicinal patients and a dispensary on every other street in the Denver area. Combine that with a staggering amount of people that consume cannabis recreationally, unaffiliated with the medicinal program, and you can see how there's a pretty enormous market in this state alone. Now take into consideration the relative size of California and the fact that every single one of its citizens of legal age could potentially be buyers of this product. Nobody would advertise on it? The Denver Post disagrees with you mightily ---> http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana ... oh yeah, the Westword Magazine disagrees with you too ---> http://www.westword.com/directory/marijuana-dispensaries/ http://www.westword.com/directory/marijuana-dispensaries/ Do you have any idea the amount of shops that are going to be offering cannabis products? You don't think, I don't know, that THOSE people would like to advertise? Or the glass blowers that make a living making pipes, bowls, etc? Or the vaporizer manufacturers like http://silversurfervap.com http://silversurfervap.com or the web developers that make most of their money designing sites for dispensaries in medicinal states? What about grow light suppliers like http://www.sunlightsupply.com http://www.sunlightsupply.com or the nutrient companies like http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ or the full hydro/grow stores like http://www.thebigtomato.com/ http://www.thebigtomato.com/ ?? Consider the seed banks like http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ that will be bringing their business to California. Think of the apparel companies that sell cannabis related gear. Think of the music industry when it finally adopts weed in out in the open. Think of the electricians that specialize in wiring grow rooms from small all the way up to the warehouse sized ones that dispensaries run around here. Edit: You know what, I'm not even done. Here are some more people that "wouldn't advertise" -- cannabis edible makers and drink makers like http://www.keefcola.com/ http://www.keefcola.com/ , online communities like http://www.icmag.com http://www.icmag.com , cannabis breeders like DJ Short, companies that sell point of sale software to dispensaries, credit card processors, etc etc etc. This is so much bigger than you'll ever know, and it makes me sad that you have such a negative attitude towards it. This is bigger than the gold rush and bigger than silicon valley. And we're only talking about California. Think of when the next state adopts it. And the next. And the next. I also find it ironic that you think nobody would "buy" a cannabis related startup when this very thread is about a very wealthy individual investing $100,000 already, and the law hasn't even passed yet. Imagine the projects he's got his eyes on for when it actually DOES pass. Mark my words, if legalization takes hold you're going to see your first cannabis entrepreneur break the Forbes 400 in a very short amount of time.
jbooth 16y ago
The election's tuesday. It's topical.
- hugh3 16y ago
  Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
  - ugh 16y ago
    Please notice the words “most” and “probably”.
    - CamperBob 16y ago
      I don't see anything about Paul Buchheit on CNN.
- 0-4 16y ago
  It's topical to people in California, who care about drugs. Not really hackery is it.
  - deleted 16y ago
    [deleted]
paul 16y ago
For me, it's all connected. The SF area is one of the most innovative places in the world because in it's also one of the most free places in the world.
- ciupicri 16y ago
  Speaking of freedom, are people are allowed to drink beer on the beach? Are teenagers allowed to drink small quantities of alcohol? Without these I don't think that you can consider SF one of the most free places in the world.
  - mturmon 16y ago
    That's a weird definition of freedom.
    - davidw 16y ago
      It's a part of it though. Why can someone who is 20 in the US get married, have children, join the military, and vote, but not drink a beer? I agree with hugh3 in any case. This is an article about politics, and no matter how much we may want to cheer paul on, I am not really sure it's germane, and that it might encourage others to submit things they feel 'rah rah!' about.
- nkurz 16y ago
  While there are many fine features of the Bay Area, as someone starting a business here who has spent most of my life living elsewhere, I don't see any greater freedom. If you are concerned with obeying the law as written rather than merely avoiding it as enforced, I think it has the least freedom and most regulation of anywhere I've lived in the US. That said, perhaps there are social values associated with lax enforcement?
  - stretchwithme 16y ago
    what the bay area does have is a lot of people that believe changing the world is possible. and they know how to get things done. and its still free enough to innovate good luck with your business.
davidmurphy 16y ago
I resent seeing stuff like this on Hacker News. Sorry for the angry rant, but I am extraordinarily opposed to this Proposition, with the strongest fiber of my very being, and to see this be the top story on hacker news, which I come to for entrepreneurship stuff, just makes me pissed. :( I don't want politics on Hacker News. Get. It. Off. Please. Thanks! </angryrant>
- nkohari 16y ago
  Why not explain why you're against it, rather than getting angry? To me, HN is a place for debate.

by hugh3 16y ago

delano 16y ago

It's okay to believe in something.

thompo 16y ago

you really can't see the potential start-up opportunities that will come forth through the legalization of a substance that millions of people use worldwide? well at least i know you won't be my competition. keep on keeping on man.

0-4 16y ago
You really want think creating a drug based startup is a good idea? Who would buy it? No one would advertise on it. No users would pay for it. And it would be morally questionable. But if that's what floats your boat...
- ThomPete 16y ago
  What do you mean no one would? I would if it would connect with my target group.
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]
- cullenking 16y ago
  No, but buying up drug based domains in the event that it becomes a legal market doesn't sound too bad.... cough oregoncannabis.com oregonbud.com cough
- thompo 16y ago
  Morally questionable to who? You? Yes I think starting a cannabis related startup is a good idea. I live in Colorado where we have over 100,000 medicinal patients and a dispensary on every other street in the Denver area. Combine that with a staggering amount of people that consume cannabis recreationally, unaffiliated with the medicinal program, and you can see how there's a pretty enormous market in this state alone. Now take into consideration the relative size of California and the fact that every single one of its citizens of legal age could potentially be buyers of this product. Nobody would advertise on it? The Denver Post disagrees with you mightily ---> http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana http://www.denverpost.com/news/marijuana ... oh yeah, the Westword Magazine disagrees with you too ---> http://www.westword.com/directory/marijuana-dispensaries/ http://www.westword.com/directory/marijuana-dispensaries/ Do you have any idea the amount of shops that are going to be offering cannabis products? You don't think, I don't know, that THOSE people would like to advertise? Or the glass blowers that make a living making pipes, bowls, etc? Or the vaporizer manufacturers like http://silversurfervap.com http://silversurfervap.com or the web developers that make most of their money designing sites for dispensaries in medicinal states? What about grow light suppliers like http://www.sunlightsupply.com http://www.sunlightsupply.com or the nutrient companies like http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ http://www.generalhydroponics.com/ or the full hydro/grow stores like http://www.thebigtomato.com/ http://www.thebigtomato.com/ ?? Consider the seed banks like http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/ that will be bringing their business to California. Think of the apparel companies that sell cannabis related gear. Think of the music industry when it finally adopts weed in out in the open. Think of the electricians that specialize in wiring grow rooms from small all the way up to the warehouse sized ones that dispensaries run around here. Edit: You know what, I'm not even done. Here are some more people that "wouldn't advertise" -- cannabis edible makers and drink makers like http://www.keefcola.com/ http://www.keefcola.com/ , online communities like http://www.icmag.com http://www.icmag.com , cannabis breeders like DJ Short, companies that sell point of sale software to dispensaries, credit card processors, etc etc etc. This is so much bigger than you'll ever know, and it makes me sad that you have such a negative attitude towards it. This is bigger than the gold rush and bigger than silicon valley. And we're only talking about California. Think of when the next state adopts it. And the next. And the next. I also find it ironic that you think nobody would "buy" a cannabis related startup when this very thread is about a very wealthy individual investing $100,000 already, and the law hasn't even passed yet. Imagine the projects he's got his eyes on for when it actually DOES pass. Mark my words, if legalization takes hold you're going to see your first cannabis entrepreneur break the Forbes 400 in a very short amount of time.

jbooth 16y ago

The election's tuesday. It's topical.

hugh3 16y ago
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
- ugh 16y ago
  Please notice the words “most” and “probably”.
  - CamperBob 16y ago
    I don't see anything about Paul Buchheit on CNN.
0-4 16y ago
It's topical to people in California, who care about drugs. Not really hackery is it.
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]

paul 16y ago

For me, it's all connected. The SF area is one of the most innovative places in the world because in it's also one of the most free places in the world.

ciupicri 16y ago
Speaking of freedom, are people are allowed to drink beer on the beach? Are teenagers allowed to drink small quantities of alcohol? Without these I don't think that you can consider SF one of the most free places in the world.
- mturmon 16y ago
  That's a weird definition of freedom.
  - davidw 16y ago
    It's a part of it though. Why can someone who is 20 in the US get married, have children, join the military, and vote, but not drink a beer? I agree with hugh3 in any case. This is an article about politics, and no matter how much we may want to cheer paul on, I am not really sure it's germane, and that it might encourage others to submit things they feel 'rah rah!' about.
nkurz 16y ago
While there are many fine features of the Bay Area, as someone starting a business here who has spent most of my life living elsewhere, I don't see any greater freedom. If you are concerned with obeying the law as written rather than merely avoiding it as enforced, I think it has the least freedom and most regulation of anywhere I've lived in the US. That said, perhaps there are social values associated with lax enforcement?
- stretchwithme 16y ago
  what the bay area does have is a lot of people that believe changing the world is possible. and they know how to get things done. and its still free enough to innovate good luck with your business.

davidmurphy 16y ago

I resent seeing stuff like this on Hacker News. Sorry for the angry rant, but I am extraordinarily opposed to this Proposition, with the strongest fiber of my very being, and to see this be the top story on hacker news, which I come to for entrepreneurship stuff, just makes me pissed. :( I don't want politics on Hacker News. Get. It. Off. Please. Thanks! </angryrant>

nkohari 16y ago
Why not explain why you're against it, rather than getting angry? To me, HN is a place for debate.