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>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code

>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code even though they don't care for it.

onion2k 8y ago
If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant you'll miss out on the opportunity to learn from some of the industry's best developers. There are loads of people working on entirely closed source projects who are very, very good engineers. Not every project is web.
- mariusmg 8y ago
  >If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Also I didn't said anything about their level of brilliance :) >Not ever project is web. The snark level, off the charts....
  - thecatspaw 8y ago
    > So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Its not. They just dont care if something is open source or not. Maybe they would happily use a free, closed source library instead.
  - onion2k 8y ago
    I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. When I said "entirely closed source projects" I meant that literally - some projects have no open source elements. They're written in closed source languages that you have to pay for, with closed source libraries and frameworks that you also have to pay for. They tend to be things like control systems in small industries, unusual embedded systems, and so on. The software industry is big and hard to make general statements about. "All developers will use open source code" is not true.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Using open source in many enterprises is just a way to save costs, many times at expense of productivity as there are closed source options that are actually better, but not all companies are willing to shell out the cash. Contributing back, or even announcing to the world that such packages are used is not even a thing.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    > So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. A lot of people don't care about cars but will still own one to drive to work every day. It's just a tool.
  - C1sc0cat 8y ago
    You must be rather sensatiVe if that's of the chart
- eeZah7Ux 8y ago
  Not all open source is web crap. Not all open source is on GitHub, or has a website and is even indexed by search engines.
  - pdimitar 8y ago
    The recently announced https://sr.ht https://sr.ht is a good example.
- scirocco 8y ago
  Yeah, just like Sharepoint developers
thecatspaw 8y ago
So? Just because your code is not open source does not mean you're not allowed to use it. They might not care about the company they are applying to opensourcing their code. Plus you have to try really hard nowadays to not use any open source code at all
- jcbrand 8y ago
  > Just because your code is not open source does not mean you're not allowed to use it. Depends on the license of the OSS and wether you're distributing or hosting the code that relies on it.
  - thecatspaw 8y ago
    Sure, but you will allways need to consider licensing, wether you're closed source or open source
openIce 8y ago
So? Open source code doesn't make you any money. If anything brilliant people will not open source their solutions
emptyfile 8y ago
What's "ironic" about that?
eeZah7Ux 8y ago
Where's the irony?

>I've known some brilliant engineers who don't care at all for open source code The obvious irony here is those "brilliant" engineers will use open source code even though they don't care for it.

onion2k 8y ago

If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant you'll miss out on the opportunity to learn from some of the industry's best developers. There are loads of people working on entirely closed source projects who are very, very good engineers. Not every project is web.

mariusmg 8y ago
>If you go through your dev career thinking only people who write and use open source code are brilliant I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Also I didn't said anything about their level of brilliance :) >Not ever project is web. The snark level, off the charts....
- thecatspaw 8y ago
  > So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. Its not. They just dont care if something is open source or not. Maybe they would happily use a free, closed source library instead.
- onion2k 8y ago
  I didn't said that. I have just pointed that even close source developers are using open source when working daily on their closed source projects. When I said "entirely closed source projects" I meant that literally - some projects have no open source elements. They're written in closed source languages that you have to pay for, with closed source libraries and frameworks that you also have to pay for. They tend to be things like control systems in small industries, unusual embedded systems, and so on. The software industry is big and hard to make general statements about. "All developers will use open source code" is not true.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Using open source in many enterprises is just a way to save costs, many times at expense of productivity as there are closed source options that are actually better, but not all companies are willing to shell out the cash. Contributing back, or even announcing to the world that such packages are used is not even a thing.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  > So saying they don't care about something they use daily is ....wrong. A lot of people don't care about cars but will still own one to drive to work every day. It's just a tool.
- C1sc0cat 8y ago
  You must be rather sensatiVe if that's of the chart
eeZah7Ux 8y ago
Not all open source is web crap. Not all open source is on GitHub, or has a website and is even indexed by search engines.
- pdimitar 8y ago
  The recently announced https://sr.ht https://sr.ht is a good example.
scirocco 8y ago
Yeah, just like Sharepoint developers

thecatspaw 8y ago

So? Just because your code is not open source does not mean you're not allowed to use it. They might not care about the company they are applying to opensourcing their code. Plus you have to try really hard nowadays to not use any open source code at all

jcbrand 8y ago
> Just because your code is not open source does not mean you're not allowed to use it. Depends on the license of the OSS and wether you're distributing or hosting the code that relies on it.
- thecatspaw 8y ago
  Sure, but you will allways need to consider licensing, wether you're closed source or open source

openIce 8y ago

So? Open source code doesn't make you any money. If anything brilliant people will not open source their solutions

emptyfile 8y ago

What's "ironic" about that?

eeZah7Ux 8y ago

Where's the irony?