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One robot vs state violence?

by drb91 8y ago

wetpaws 8y ago
I should've probably elaborate on my comment cause of course people will reflexively downvote it, but proxy wars, smaller armies, and now AI driven conflicts are the natural evolution of warfare. We went from slaughter of millions to hanful of extremely professional soldiers to, eventually fight of machines. (MGS4 depicted it in striking details years ago).
- simion314 8y ago
  Do you think that a country would surrender because your robots won a robot fight? There will still be an army and an occupation resistance movement that will fight your robots and lives will still be lost. The attackers would continue to destroy the roads,train station, food reserves, energy production facilities ... maybe AI is the future but is not better and we should try to make killer robots usage illegal.
  - wetpaws 8y ago
    The concept of proxy fight is not new, it is probably as old as humanity. Bible had David vs Goliath. Maya used a variation of soccer to solve military conflicts. (You can see it depicted on temple walls). You are focused on "destroying" part, but in fact it is only a part of the warfare, and a very expensive one. (Part of the reason why we see progressively less and less large scale conflicts is because we are growing more and more economically interconnected and a cost of open warfare just not worth it anymore)
    - simion314 8y ago
      I would love to see politicians or generals fight directly, but this does not happen at all , we see proxy wars where powers A and B fight indirectly by getting involved in some country C conflict. I do not believe that if we get AI robots involved we will not see bombs land on bridges,as recently as the war in Yugoslavia bombs were droped on economic targets: "NATO bombed strategic economic and societal targets, such as bridges, military facilities, official government facilities, and factories, using long-range cruise missiles to hit heavily defended targets, such as strategic installations in Belgrade and Pristina." Are you imagining 2 robot teams fighting each other and the winner gets the loser resources and impose it's politics, the population will accept that their robots lost ?

One robot vs state violence?

by drb91 8y ago

One robot vs state violence?

I should've probably elaborate on my comment cause of course people will reflexively downvote it, but proxy wars, smaller armies, and now AI driven conflicts are the natural evolution of warfare. We went from slaughter of millions to hanful of extremely professional soldiers to, eventually fight of machines. (MGS4 depicted it in striking details years ago).

simion314 8y ago
Do you think that a country would surrender because your robots won a robot fight? There will still be an army and an occupation resistance movement that will fight your robots and lives will still be lost. The attackers would continue to destroy the roads,train station, food reserves, energy production facilities ... maybe AI is the future but is not better and we should try to make killer robots usage illegal.
- wetpaws 8y ago
  The concept of proxy fight is not new, it is probably as old as humanity. Bible had David vs Goliath. Maya used a variation of soccer to solve military conflicts. (You can see it depicted on temple walls). You are focused on "destroying" part, but in fact it is only a part of the warfare, and a very expensive one. (Part of the reason why we see progressively less and less large scale conflicts is because we are growing more and more economically interconnected and a cost of open warfare just not worth it anymore)
  - simion314 8y ago
    I would love to see politicians or generals fight directly, but this does not happen at all , we see proxy wars where powers A and B fight indirectly by getting involved in some country C conflict. I do not believe that if we get AI robots involved we will not see bombs land on bridges,as recently as the war in Yugoslavia bombs were droped on economic targets: "NATO bombed strategic economic and societal targets, such as bridges, military facilities, official government facilities, and factories, using long-range cruise missiles to hit heavily defended targets, such as strategic installations in Belgrade and Pristina." Are you imagining 2 robot teams fighting each other and the winner gets the loser resources and impose it's politics, the population will accept that their robots lost ?