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> However, San Francisco is currently experiencing a teacher shortage of several years [1], so that vice versa I mentioned above is simply not true. The city is

> However, San Francisco is currently experiencing a teacher shortage of several years [1], so that vice versa I mentioned above is simply not true. The city is offering cash bonuses for teachers now, and it introduced some legislature to attempt to incrementally increase their wage, but it's simply not enough. A "teacher shortage" isn't the same as an increase in (free market) demand for teachers (or education). Who says that people actually demand the education that the public system forces upon them? It's more like the government can't fill the poorly paid positions it decided it needs to educate people. If a private company figured out that it could make more money by hiring workers at a higher price, they would do it. But if they just have a "shortage" of cheap-enough workers to make more money, that's not actually more demand. That's equilibrium. Everybody always has a "shortage" of getting something for nothing.

tropdrop 8y ago
This is why I constrained my argument to only consider children ages 0-12. Regardless of whether "people actually demand the education the public system forces upon them," people do demand a safe, stimulating place to put their very young kids while they go to work.
- zeroname 8y ago
  > This is why I constrained my argument to only consider children ages 0-12. I don't see how that changes anything regarding what I said. > Regardless of whether "people actually demand the education the public system forces upon them," people do demand a safe, stimulating place to put their very young kids while they go to work. That's still not demand in the economic sense. People can "verbally" demand anything they want, if they're not willing and able to pay for it, it's not real economic demand.
  - tropdrop 8y ago
    If $1300-$2100/month is not a "demand" in the economic sense, what is? https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-daycare-cost-in-the-Bay-Area https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-daycare-cost-in-the-Bay-...

tropdrop 8y ago

This is why I constrained my argument to only consider children ages 0-12. Regardless of whether "people actually demand the education the public system forces upon them," people do demand a safe, stimulating place to put their very young kids while they go to work.

zeroname 8y ago
> This is why I constrained my argument to only consider children ages 0-12. I don't see how that changes anything regarding what I said. > Regardless of whether "people actually demand the education the public system forces upon them," people do demand a safe, stimulating place to put their very young kids while they go to work. That's still not demand in the economic sense. People can "verbally" demand anything they want, if they're not willing and able to pay for it, it's not real economic demand.
- tropdrop 8y ago
  If $1300-$2100/month is not a "demand" in the economic sense, what is? https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-daycare-cost-in-the-Bay-Area https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-daycare-cost-in-the-Bay-...