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> 0.57 megawatts per employee if you include the mining jobs [...] a ratio of 9.8 megawatts per plant employee [for renewable energy]. Another media take is th
by zamalek 8y ago
> 0.57 megawatts per employee if you include the mining jobs [...] a ratio of 9.8 megawatts per plant employee [for renewable energy].
Another media take is that renewable energy will be costly for America (a specific perspective is that it's a Chinese conspiracy); this tidbit clearly shows that this perspective is false.
If America does not commit to renewable energy it will most certainly fall behind the rest of the world where energy would be significantly cheaper, if not "free" via taxation. As a generalization: local manufacturing won't be able to compete with international competition (because international competition would have lower energy costs), so there won't be anywhere else to get work. There won't be money to import fossils (due to a lack of manufacturing exports), so there won't be fossils to generate power. To make matters worse, these two outcomes are mutually-reinforcing.
We can't compete with China right now because of cheap Chinese labor, imagine how the manufacturing landscape would look with cheap Chinese energy thrown into the mix. Renewables save more blue collar jobs in the long run (but fewer energy jobs in the short-term).
In the long run, there is no way to save all the energy jobs. We need to start looking for other ways to tackle the coming energy labor market crash and, apart from UBI as a pretty flawed solution, I have nothing.
- makomk 8y agoThe main reason that renewable energy looks cheaper is that most countries chose, as a policy decision, to count the costs of dealing with its intermittent nature entirely against the non-renewables that have to fill in the gaps rather than the renewable generation. That's why Germany has wholesale electricity prices that regularly go negative thanks to green energy and some of the highest consumer electricity pricing on the planet - the renewables get the right to sell to the grid even when their power's not useful and the non-renewable have to pay for this, and then ultimately consumers have to pay when the non-renewables need to fill in for dips.
- zamalek 8y agoThe comparison drawn is MW/employee which is not relative to anything: it's just how much power the plant is pushing, irrespective of whether its useful as that specific time. It's a fair oracle. I purposefully stated "long run" because none of this works until energy storage is also solved (which it mostly is) or developed (which it definitely is not).