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In the highest form of chess, perhaps all games will be a draw. I wonder if someday we have to modify the rules or use a different variant that prevent draws, l

In the highest form of chess, perhaps all games will be a draw. I wonder if someday we have to modify the rules or use a different variant that prevent draws, like Shogi for example.

yesenadam 8y ago
Sure, maybe one day. People were speculating on the coming 'draw death' of chess 100 years ago,[1] but it hasn't really been a problem so far. What was a problem, was players agreeing to an early draw without playing the game out (Imagine, say, tennis players 'agreeing to a draw' after 10 minutes) A lot of tournaments nowadays have rules prohibiting draw offers before move 30, or draw offers at all.[0] The best players are just much better at defending than people were 100 years ago, and they're very good at bailing out to a draw when in inferior positions. Also, computers have taught humans a lot about defensive possibilities, which are larger than people had thought. The situation in matches is different to that in tournaments, where it's no good drawing all your games if you want to win the tournament. In this match, drawing every game, then drawing all the tiebreak grames, then getting black in the Armageddon game and drawing, will make you world champion. And historically, if a world championship match was tied, the champion automatically retained their title. (Tiebreaks are a recent development) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreement#Steps_taken_to_discourage_draws_or_short_draws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreement#Steps_taken_... [1] e.g. Here's Capablanca (world champion 1921-7) writing at length about it in 1925 http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca7.html http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca7.html He created a version of chess with 2 new superpowered pieces to avoid the 'draw death' problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_Chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_Chess (that page mentions some other similar variants)

In the highest form of chess, perhaps all games will be a draw. I wonder if someday we have to modify the rules or use a different variant that prevent draws, like Shogi for example.

yesenadam 8y ago

Sure, maybe one day. People were speculating on the coming 'draw death' of chess 100 years ago,[1] but it hasn't really been a problem so far. What was a problem, was players agreeing to an early draw without playing the game out (Imagine, say, tennis players 'agreeing to a draw' after 10 minutes) A lot of tournaments nowadays have rules prohibiting draw offers before move 30, or draw offers at all.[0] The best players are just much better at defending than people were 100 years ago, and they're very good at bailing out to a draw when in inferior positions. Also, computers have taught humans a lot about defensive possibilities, which are larger than people had thought. The situation in matches is different to that in tournaments, where it's no good drawing all your games if you want to win the tournament. In this match, drawing every game, then drawing all the tiebreak grames, then getting black in the Armageddon game and drawing, will make you world champion. And historically, if a world championship match was tied, the champion automatically retained their title. (Tiebreaks are a recent development) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreement#Steps_taken_to_discourage_draws_or_short_draws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draw_by_agreement#Steps_taken_... [1] e.g. Here's Capablanca (world champion 1921-7) writing at length about it in 1925 http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca7.html http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/capablanca7.html He created a version of chess with 2 new superpowered pieces to avoid the 'draw death' problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_Chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capablanca_Chess (that page mentions some other similar variants)