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Obligatory "^ this." Perpetuating the idea that everyone who comes out of school with a CS degree will end up with such a comfy gig is a disservice to software
by sjroot 8y ago
Obligatory "^ this." Perpetuating the idea that everyone who comes out of school with a CS degree will end up with such a comfy gig is a disservice to software engineers everywhere, particularly for those outside the United States.
As a mid-level engineer currently job hunting in NYC, the salary range for most non-FAANG companies (including most start-ups) seems to be $90-150k.
From my experience, the idea of "mid-level" and "senior-level" employees in our industry seems to be skewed to the left. Mid-level employees are generally 2-5 years into their careers, and senior-level can be anywhere beyond that. When you think of senior-level employees in other industries, you generally assume they have 10-20+ years of experience under their belt.
- ptd 8y agoFrom my anecdotal experience the breakpoints in engineering experience seem to be: 0-3 years-Junior:You don’t know what you’re doing. 3-8 years-Mid-level: You think you know what you’re doing. 8+ years-Senior:You know that you don’t know what you’re doing.
- ghostly_s 8y agoAt large companies, sure. The proliferation of startups really skew this on average. I know of many people who were "Senior Devs" at startups within the 1-5 years range.
- dleslie 8y agoOutside of SF, even FAANG pays considerably less. Canadian employees of the same frequently earn half that.
- lochlan 8y agoSoftware Engineers outside the US make less, full stop. Amazon has a COL adjustment for SF and NYC but it’s not as much as you might think. Not as sure about other companies but I believe Google is similar (they also have a small local office). The best setup IMO is to work at a FAANG company outside the bay, it’s the best of both worlds. Supposedly Amazon pays p90 of market rate, but in my area it’s more like p99. Source: live in PDX, work at Amazon.
- throwaway713 8y agoI’ve heard that working remotely (full time) for Facebook, Google, or Netflix is nearly impossible though unless you’re truly indispensable to the company. This may be 1-3% of their employees that can actually leverage that option?
- eclipxe 8y agoNot work remotely, work in a distributed office.
- hapless 8y agoStartups pay like shit. Which is why they attract marginal candidates who could not get hired elsewhere.
- reidjs 8y agoThis is a bit of a blanket statement. I believe it depends a lot on the candidates negotiating ability