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I was talking to someone who builds a product for recruiters recently. Apparently, common knowledge among recruiters these days is that you can't get anyone wit

I was talking to someone who builds a product for recruiters recently. Apparently, common knowledge among recruiters these days is that you can't get anyone with experience to move to SF anymore (they are still able to attract young talent right out of university). It breaks my heart the way this city is squandering its potential with backwards-looking policies that make it impractically expensive for basically everyone, tech employee or no.

pault 8y ago
Lately Netflix has been trying pretty hard to get me to come in for an interview. They don't seem to understand that because I make $200k/yr doing contract work in Austin, they would have to pay me $500k/yr to not take a relative pay cut. I know they pay well, but no company in CA will be able to offer me the same income to cost of living ratio that I have here.
knightofmars 8y ago
Anecdotally, I would need to be paid 3 times as much as I currently make to even consider moving to SF. And that 3 times is almost always outside (by 30%) the salary range for a parallel position in SF. I have more than 10 years of experience developing software. Every time I get pinged by a recruiter I do some snooping about the salary for the position (Glassdoor, LinkedIn, etc). 99% of the time, the salary range for the position would be a pay-cut (even with stock options). And no, I'm not overpaid based on my current position and where I live. I could easily leave and find another company that was willing to pay me the same salary within a 5 mile radius. Here are some additional metrics, my mortgage (owning a house in one of the most desirable areas in the city) is 1/6 of my monthly paycheck. My taxes are 10% of my monthly paycheck. I'm not saying any of this as a way to brag or show off. I'm pointing out that the quality of life I have would only drop off if I moved to a place like SF.
- souprock 8y ago
  Glassdoor is nonsense. Somehow, they think we pay experienced specialists roughly the going rate for flipping burgers or mopping restrooms.

pault 8y ago

Lately Netflix has been trying pretty hard to get me to come in for an interview. They don't seem to understand that because I make $200k/yr doing contract work in Austin, they would have to pay me $500k/yr to not take a relative pay cut. I know they pay well, but no company in CA will be able to offer me the same income to cost of living ratio that I have here.

knightofmars 8y ago

Anecdotally, I would need to be paid 3 times as much as I currently make to even consider moving to SF. And that 3 times is almost always outside (by 30%) the salary range for a parallel position in SF. I have more than 10 years of experience developing software. Every time I get pinged by a recruiter I do some snooping about the salary for the position (Glassdoor, LinkedIn, etc). 99% of the time, the salary range for the position would be a pay-cut (even with stock options). And no, I'm not overpaid based on my current position and where I live. I could easily leave and find another company that was willing to pay me the same salary within a 5 mile radius. Here are some additional metrics, my mortgage (owning a house in one of the most desirable areas in the city) is 1/6 of my monthly paycheck. My taxes are 10% of my monthly paycheck. I'm not saying any of this as a way to brag or show off. I'm pointing out that the quality of life I have would only drop off if I moved to a place like SF.

souprock 8y ago
Glassdoor is nonsense. Somehow, they think we pay experienced specialists roughly the going rate for flipping burgers or mopping restrooms.