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We should really improve K-12 education. The fact that kids are not qualified for college after 18 years in public school is a travesty.

by sjg007 8y ago

cdoxsey 8y ago
The fact that so many jobs require a college degree is a travesty. We should get teenagers into the workforce sooner and provide more relevant and on-the-job training.
- chiefalchemist 8y ago
  Thos jobs will be replaced by AI. But let me see a Roomba fix your broken toilet.
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chiefalchemist 8y ago
It's not that they're not qualified. They're just not college material __and__ there's not enough mid / highend jobs for them. At the same time, the trades are hurting for good people. But the entitled are too good to be fully employed. They'd rather taken on debt. Given where AI is headed the higher edu route is not going to improve. Yet BHO, who knows better, kept beating the "higher edu for all" drum.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  They're not entitled, they’re just not being compensated enough to do labor which has quite a bit of negative effects on your health and quality of life compared to office jobs. Once you see people opting for the trades, then you will know they are getting proper compensation.
  - chiefalchemist 8y ago
    The trades aren't __that__ dangerous. Certainly not any more dangerous than sitting at a desk all day, stressed out, and putting on 30 - 50+ lbs. That sedentary lifestyle will kill you.
    - michaelt 8y ago
      If you think being an office worker is more dangerous than being a roofer or a logger or a farmer, I can tell you I've just checked the statistics and actually such jobs are comparatively more dangerous.
closeparen 8y ago
That any kids still have the curiosity and intrinsic motivation to thrive in college after 13 years in public school is a miracle.
chiefalchemist 8y ago
It's not they aren't qualify. It's that they are not wired (think personality type) for typical, mainstream, status quo, (typically) office / lab work. Yet, the fact is, knowing this, we as a culture continue to insist square pegs force themselves into round holes. Drugs use is up? Depression / mental illness is up? Perhaps we open our eyes (and minds) to helping young adults becomes something that's meaningful - and career worthy - to them instead of forcing them down a path they don't want to go. The fact that a fair percentage of people end up __not__ working in their major 10 years down the road seems to be saying something as well.

We should really improve K-12 education. The fact that kids are not qualified for college after 18 years in public school is a travesty.

by sjg007 8y ago

We should really improve K-12 education. The fact that kids are not qualified for college after 18 years in public school is a travesty.

cdoxsey 8y ago

The fact that so many jobs require a college degree is a travesty. We should get teenagers into the workforce sooner and provide more relevant and on-the-job training.

chiefalchemist 8y ago
Thos jobs will be replaced by AI. But let me see a Roomba fix your broken toilet.
- deleted 8y ago
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chiefalchemist 8y ago

It's not that they're not qualified. They're just not college material __and__ there's not enough mid / highend jobs for them. At the same time, the trades are hurting for good people. But the entitled are too good to be fully employed. They'd rather taken on debt. Given where AI is headed the higher edu route is not going to improve. Yet BHO, who knows better, kept beating the "higher edu for all" drum.

lotsofpulp 8y ago
They're not entitled, they’re just not being compensated enough to do labor which has quite a bit of negative effects on your health and quality of life compared to office jobs. Once you see people opting for the trades, then you will know they are getting proper compensation.
- chiefalchemist 8y ago
  The trades aren't __that__ dangerous. Certainly not any more dangerous than sitting at a desk all day, stressed out, and putting on 30 - 50+ lbs. That sedentary lifestyle will kill you.
  - michaelt 8y ago
    If you think being an office worker is more dangerous than being a roofer or a logger or a farmer, I can tell you I've just checked the statistics and actually such jobs are comparatively more dangerous.

closeparen 8y ago

That any kids still have the curiosity and intrinsic motivation to thrive in college after 13 years in public school is a miracle.

chiefalchemist 8y ago

It's not they aren't qualify. It's that they are not wired (think personality type) for typical, mainstream, status quo, (typically) office / lab work. Yet, the fact is, knowing this, we as a culture continue to insist square pegs force themselves into round holes. Drugs use is up? Depression / mental illness is up? Perhaps we open our eyes (and minds) to helping young adults becomes something that's meaningful - and career worthy - to them instead of forcing them down a path they don't want to go. The fact that a fair percentage of people end up __not__ working in their major 10 years down the road seems to be saying something as well.