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I think you're right. I wrote about this in a mediocre essay for a university competition (https://nickhayden.com/blog/war-poverty-and-the-human-elements-of-cyb

I think you're right. I wrote about this in a mediocre essay for a university competition (https://nickhayden.com/blog/war-poverty-and-the-human-elements-of-cybersecurity/ https://nickhayden.com/blog/war-poverty-and-the-human-elemen...) I think what we'll see is people living in poverty being radicalised, not too different from what we have in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan except now instead of risking their lives attacking a US convoy they just start hitting businesses with invalid security until they find something big. We're probably not too far away from it.

stef25 8y ago
> until they find something big What do you envisage that to be?
- Hextinium 8y ago
  If the electrical grid in the US to go down for greater than 2 weeks I think that could be an example of systematic shutdown that would be something big enough to sufficiently scare people into radically different habits.
- Haydos585x2 8y ago
  Maybe this attacker gets into a few generic companies like accountants, builders, marketers. Nothing really valuable beyond the scope of the particular company and their customers. Maybe they find their way into a oil/gas/mining operation, specialised software development company or everyone's favourite example, the electrical grid/water systems. Without data to back it up, I think that most attackers don't want to cause nation-wide problems and are motivated by money or revenge against a specific target. The biggest risk for them is if they did nation-wide damage whether deliberately or accidentally they might be on the receiving end of a response similar to OBL. Whether or not that would happen I don't know but it's the perception that matters. My biggest reason for hope is that the people I've seen working in government and large corp security have been skilled, aware of the risks and are ready to put in the work keeping systems safe.

stef25 8y ago

> until they find something big What do you envisage that to be?

Hextinium 8y ago
If the electrical grid in the US to go down for greater than 2 weeks I think that could be an example of systematic shutdown that would be something big enough to sufficiently scare people into radically different habits.
Haydos585x2 8y ago
Maybe this attacker gets into a few generic companies like accountants, builders, marketers. Nothing really valuable beyond the scope of the particular company and their customers. Maybe they find their way into a oil/gas/mining operation, specialised software development company or everyone's favourite example, the electrical grid/water systems. Without data to back it up, I think that most attackers don't want to cause nation-wide problems and are motivated by money or revenge against a specific target. The biggest risk for them is if they did nation-wide damage whether deliberately or accidentally they might be on the receiving end of a response similar to OBL. Whether or not that would happen I don't know but it's the perception that matters. My biggest reason for hope is that the people I've seen working in government and large corp security have been skilled, aware of the risks and are ready to put in the work keeping systems safe.