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Everyone and their dog has autonomous vehicles. Meanwhile Google is trying to patent technology it's not theirs: https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/02/waymo-sel

Everyone and their dog has autonomous vehicles. Meanwhile Google is trying to patent technology it's not theirs: https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/02/waymo-self-driving-lidar-patent-infringement-uber-velodyne/ https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/02/waymo-self-driving-lidar...

joshuamorton 8y ago
You didn't actually address my specific comment: is anyone else publicly testing an SDC? Is waymo not doing that? That's what you originally claimed.
- bunnycorn 8y ago
  Tesla isn't testing SDCs?
  - joshuamorton 8y ago
    There's a difference between L2 and L4/5 autonomy. Tesla have not shown themselves to be capable of jumping to the harder side of that. Waymo, cruise, Uber and Lyft all are, but of the 4, waymo certainly appears to be the most advanced. To be blunt, Tesla is doing glorified lane following, and everyone can do that. It's not going to turn left at the next traffic light anytime soon. The others will (or at least will try).
    - bunnycorn 8y ago
      Yes, there is difference, but there is also a staggering difference between Google which doesn't have anything on the market, and Tesla that you can go out and buy one and drive it today.
      - joshuamorton 8y ago
        I'm unclear what you mean by "on the market". Waymo is currently having people pay for an AV rideshare service that can drive you around, and where the clients don't sit in the drivers seat. Whereas Tesla is apparently out here shipping a vehicle that (according to reddit anyway)[1] has hardcoded "do not brake here" zones on the map and almost crashes as a result. Tesla's vehicles can't reliably drive on a freeway, much less on surface streets. Sure you can buy something, but its not an autonomous vehicle. Because as you rightly point out, you're still the one driving. [1]:https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/9y6zpb/another_close_call_with_autopilot_today_merging/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/9y6zpb/another...

joshuamorton 8y ago

You didn't actually address my specific comment: is anyone else publicly testing an SDC? Is waymo not doing that? That's what you originally claimed.

bunnycorn 8y ago
Tesla isn't testing SDCs?
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  There's a difference between L2 and L4/5 autonomy. Tesla have not shown themselves to be capable of jumping to the harder side of that. Waymo, cruise, Uber and Lyft all are, but of the 4, waymo certainly appears to be the most advanced. To be blunt, Tesla is doing glorified lane following, and everyone can do that. It's not going to turn left at the next traffic light anytime soon. The others will (or at least will try).
  - bunnycorn 8y ago
    Yes, there is difference, but there is also a staggering difference between Google which doesn't have anything on the market, and Tesla that you can go out and buy one and drive it today.
    - joshuamorton 8y ago
      I'm unclear what you mean by "on the market". Waymo is currently having people pay for an AV rideshare service that can drive you around, and where the clients don't sit in the drivers seat. Whereas Tesla is apparently out here shipping a vehicle that (according to reddit anyway)[1] has hardcoded "do not brake here" zones on the map and almost crashes as a result. Tesla's vehicles can't reliably drive on a freeway, much less on surface streets. Sure you can buy something, but its not an autonomous vehicle. Because as you rightly point out, you're still the one driving. [1]:https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/9y6zpb/another_close_call_with_autopilot_today_merging/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/9y6zpb/another...