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girl uses song lyrics in a instagram caption post gets slapped with "an eight-week community order, placed on an eight-week curfew and told to pay costs of £50

girl uses song lyrics in a instagram caption post gets slapped with "an eight-week community order, placed on an eight-week curfew and told to pay costs of £500 and an £85 victim surcharge." https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921 oddly enough I had just learned about this and laughed about it 2 days ago surveillance state ethos is becoming a joke in the mainstream zeitgeist with memes propogating about "the fbi man" watching our selfie cameras and asking our google home/alexa device "wiretap" what the best recipes are available... most people are very aware of what's happening with their data and they've chosen convenience

RileyJames 8y ago
Who wouldn’t choose convienince when their data is being used for their benefit? Unfortunately, data is a double edged sword. Once collected it can also be used against you, but once out of your control you have no ability to remove consent or reclaim the data. On top of that, how do you steam music via your mobile phone without providing data to a 3rd party? And if your solution involves anything more than an App Store, and doesn’t include any form of customer support, I’m not sure you truely understand who you are specifying this solution to. Now of the solutions realistically available to this user, which do not capture and retain data on the given user? And which will not change their policy in the future to do so? People are aware, and tired. But I think you could better relate to their situation if you considered trying to live your life without creating carbon, or at least to become carbon neutral. What you understand about your carbon footprint, others understand about their data footprint. Zero, or worse still, a bunch of half baked and misconceived ideas that result in a negative outcome.
nyolfen 8y ago
has the UK gone fucking insane in the last ten years or so? was it always like this? it seems like i just keep hearing these mind-boggling police state stories lately. maybe in the US we have to worry more about getting shot by the cops but i'd take that astronomical chance over worrying about posting song lyrics on my instagram or making a dark joke: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7686779/vile-grenfell-effigy-thought-police-rod-liddle/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7686779/vile-grenfell-effigy-t...
- petre 8y ago
  When you have to worry about getting shot by the cops rather than the criminals, then there's something seriously wrong with your society.
  - zzo38computer 8y ago
    Absolutely it is correct. You need to be protected from the police too, not only from the criminals.
    - cbluth 8y ago
      In many cases, they are the same.
  - village-idiot 8y ago
    It’s hard to argue that something isn’t seriously wrong with America these days, but I wouldn’t exactly champ at the bit to defend the UK either.
  - dcow 8y ago
    It’s not as bad as your hysteria wants it to be.
  - b1r6 8y ago
    I'd rather have that than the UK dystopia.
    - F_r_k 8y ago
      I'd rather have neither of those
zaptheimpaler 8y ago
thats depressing.. no one really feels like they have any power over what their government does anymore. the governments and bigcos do whatever they want. we can only be careful not to get arrested, be careful not to fight too hard at work or risk getting replaced for 99.9% of people. even for all the hype about programmers, there are millions of people banging on the doors trying to break into tech and most of us are replaceable.

RileyJames 8y ago

Who wouldn’t choose convienince when their data is being used for their benefit? Unfortunately, data is a double edged sword. Once collected it can also be used against you, but once out of your control you have no ability to remove consent or reclaim the data. On top of that, how do you steam music via your mobile phone without providing data to a 3rd party? And if your solution involves anything more than an App Store, and doesn’t include any form of customer support, I’m not sure you truely understand who you are specifying this solution to. Now of the solutions realistically available to this user, which do not capture and retain data on the given user? And which will not change their policy in the future to do so? People are aware, and tired. But I think you could better relate to their situation if you considered trying to live your life without creating carbon, or at least to become carbon neutral. What you understand about your carbon footprint, others understand about their data footprint. Zero, or worse still, a bunch of half baked and misconceived ideas that result in a negative outcome.

nyolfen 8y ago

has the UK gone fucking insane in the last ten years or so? was it always like this? it seems like i just keep hearing these mind-boggling police state stories lately. maybe in the US we have to worry more about getting shot by the cops but i'd take that astronomical chance over worrying about posting song lyrics on my instagram or making a dark joke: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7686779/vile-grenfell-effigy-thought-police-rod-liddle/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7686779/vile-grenfell-effigy-t...

petre 8y ago
When you have to worry about getting shot by the cops rather than the criminals, then there's something seriously wrong with your society.
- zzo38computer 8y ago
  Absolutely it is correct. You need to be protected from the police too, not only from the criminals.
  - cbluth 8y ago
    In many cases, they are the same.
- village-idiot 8y ago
  It’s hard to argue that something isn’t seriously wrong with America these days, but I wouldn’t exactly champ at the bit to defend the UK either.
- dcow 8y ago
  It’s not as bad as your hysteria wants it to be.
- b1r6 8y ago
  I'd rather have that than the UK dystopia.
  - F_r_k 8y ago
    I'd rather have neither of those

zaptheimpaler 8y ago

thats depressing.. no one really feels like they have any power over what their government does anymore. the governments and bigcos do whatever they want. we can only be careful not to get arrested, be careful not to fight too hard at work or risk getting replaced for 99.9% of people. even for all the hype about programmers, there are millions of people banging on the doors trying to break into tech and most of us are replaceable.