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Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

jcousins 8y ago
I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.
- tonmoy 8y ago
  I recently made the transition and it wasn’t that bad. My brain adjusted to hitting archive instead of done. And the gmail app archives when you swipe right. The categories needed a little manual adjusting, but works good enough after the tweaking
  - tempestn 8y ago
    You can actually even customize what the right and left swipes do. I have left for mark as read and right for archive.
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.
  - senoroink 8y ago
    > The done button is the archive button True, but the point of Inbox was to treat your email like a todo list. By definition, it is the same, but training millions of Inbox users that this is new behavior makes it hard to grok. > If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are. Every Inbox is probably using bundles whether they remember or not. It becomes incredibly powerful when you have a trip coming up and your flight, hotel, rental car, etc. is all bundled up together.
  - Vinnl 8y ago
    The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps. (Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)
    - crazysim 8y ago
      Recurring reminders. Can't do that with emailing stuff to yourself.
    - dillondoyle 8y ago
      Gmail has smart reminders, or maybe I dont understand. I rely on gmail important filter. If I sent an email but there isn't a response back after like 4/5 days gmail puts a reminder into my important section. It's super helpful because I have a hard time remembering the smaller things.
      - Vinnl 8y ago
        I don't think that's what I'm looking for. I want to enter reminders that don't necessarily arise from an email. For example, if I'm asked in the morning to get some groceries, I'd set a reminder in Inbox about that that would arise at the end of my work day. Now in Gmail, as far as I'm aware, I'd have to email that reminder to myself, and then snooze that email until the end of my workday.
        kd5bjo 8y ago
        I've been using https://www.followupthen.com/ https://www.followupthen.com/ for this sort of thing
        Vinnl 8y ago
        Hmm, that looks nice, but not necessarily faster than snoozing an email I sent to myself when already in my email interface...
  - cauthon 8y ago
    Bundles for me. I get so much mailing list and advertising spam that my personal Gmail is almost unusable without bundles
  - vidarh 8y ago
    Bundles is the big one. Whenever I log in to normal Gmail now instead of Inbox I immediately get put off and reminded I really need an alternative to Gmail that won't let Google mess with my email interface any more.
TheAceOfHearts 8y ago
I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.
- rckclmbr 8y ago
  I'll make it a million and one. Moved from gmail to fastmail a year ago, cant recommend it enough
- mistermann 8y ago
  Gmail search often doesn't even work for me anymore, I simply can't understand how decisions are made at this company. Is there a way to migrate all your email and maintain your Gmail address indefinitely?
  - davchana 8y ago
    Google takeout offers mailbox format, & address stays active as long as you log into once in few months..
  - ytjohn 8y ago
    I've used imapsync before (link below). You configure in your gmail credentials on one side and your new account on the other. You'll want to set up "device" password for it to avoid any 2fa/not a robot checks. It does take a while due to google rate limiting (think days). But once you get it started, you can just let it run. imapsync homepage: https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ imapsync github gmail faq: https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/blob/master/FAQ.d/FAQ.Gmail.txt https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/blob/master/FAQ.d/FAQ.G...
  - socratesque 8y ago
    If I remember correctly (maybe four years ago) I just downloaded all my email over IMAP using some desktop client then re-uploaded onto Fastmail. It's a one time hassle but definitely worth it, especially if I had known what I had to do yesterday. I sifted through 10 years worth of email looking for train and plane tickets and hotel bookings etc because I needed to know exactly which dates I crossed which borders .. anyway off topic, a huge pain of course, but an easy task on Fastmail, where as my laptop gets brought to its heels every time I have to open my gmail inbox. Oh and you can set gmail to forward everything to your Fastmail. You can even have it land in a separate folder to keep it all neat. Lately I've had issues sending from my gmail account on Fastmail, I think google changed their security practices a while ago..
urda 8y ago
I already manage most of my e-mail via filters and just my plain old Mail.app. My current plan is to go back to Thunderbird honestly for my Desktop OS needs.
me551ah 8y ago
The new gmail is also buggy. 1. Items will randomly not open and I need to force refresh the page to open a particular email. 2. Search sometimes returns 0 results and clicking on search again seems to work.

jcousins 8y ago

I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.

tonmoy 8y ago
I recently made the transition and it wasn’t that bad. My brain adjusted to hitting archive instead of done. And the gmail app archives when you swipe right. The categories needed a little manual adjusting, but works good enough after the tweaking
- tempestn 8y ago
  You can actually even customize what the right and left swipes do. I have left for mark as read and right for archive.
joshuamorton 8y ago
I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.
- senoroink 8y ago
  > The done button is the archive button True, but the point of Inbox was to treat your email like a todo list. By definition, it is the same, but training millions of Inbox users that this is new behavior makes it hard to grok. > If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are. Every Inbox is probably using bundles whether they remember or not. It becomes incredibly powerful when you have a trip coming up and your flight, hotel, rental car, etc. is all bundled up together.
- Vinnl 8y ago
  The other feature I'm going to miss is reminders. Now I'll have to start emailing stuff to myself again, which is quite a few more steps. (Unless of course I'm missing something, in which case I hope someone here corrects me.)
  - crazysim 8y ago
    Recurring reminders. Can't do that with emailing stuff to yourself.
  - dillondoyle 8y ago
    Gmail has smart reminders, or maybe I dont understand. I rely on gmail important filter. If I sent an email but there isn't a response back after like 4/5 days gmail puts a reminder into my important section. It's super helpful because I have a hard time remembering the smaller things.
    - Vinnl 8y ago
      I don't think that's what I'm looking for. I want to enter reminders that don't necessarily arise from an email. For example, if I'm asked in the morning to get some groceries, I'd set a reminder in Inbox about that that would arise at the end of my work day. Now in Gmail, as far as I'm aware, I'd have to email that reminder to myself, and then snooze that email until the end of my workday.
      - kd5bjo 8y ago
        I've been using https://www.followupthen.com/ https://www.followupthen.com/ for this sort of thing
        Vinnl 8y ago
        Hmm, that looks nice, but not necessarily faster than snoozing an email I sent to myself when already in my email interface...
- cauthon 8y ago
  Bundles for me. I get so much mailing list and advertising spam that my personal Gmail is almost unusable without bundles
- vidarh 8y ago
  Bundles is the big one. Whenever I log in to normal Gmail now instead of Inbox I immediately get put off and reminded I really need an alternative to Gmail that won't let Google mess with my email interface any more.

TheAceOfHearts 8y ago

I know this suggestion has been made a million times here by now, but you should really try a service like Fastmail! A few weeks back I began transitioning my data away from Google, and the performance and overall quality level of Fastmail really blew my mind. It's probably the best and fastest web app I've ever used.

rckclmbr 8y ago
I'll make it a million and one. Moved from gmail to fastmail a year ago, cant recommend it enough
mistermann 8y ago
Gmail search often doesn't even work for me anymore, I simply can't understand how decisions are made at this company. Is there a way to migrate all your email and maintain your Gmail address indefinitely?
- davchana 8y ago
  Google takeout offers mailbox format, & address stays active as long as you log into once in few months..
- ytjohn 8y ago
  I've used imapsync before (link below). You configure in your gmail credentials on one side and your new account on the other. You'll want to set up "device" password for it to avoid any 2fa/not a robot checks. It does take a while due to google rate limiting (think days). But once you get it started, you can just let it run. imapsync homepage: https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ https://imapsync.lamiral.info/ imapsync github gmail faq: https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/blob/master/FAQ.d/FAQ.Gmail.txt https://github.com/imapsync/imapsync/blob/master/FAQ.d/FAQ.G...
- socratesque 8y ago
  If I remember correctly (maybe four years ago) I just downloaded all my email over IMAP using some desktop client then re-uploaded onto Fastmail. It's a one time hassle but definitely worth it, especially if I had known what I had to do yesterday. I sifted through 10 years worth of email looking for train and plane tickets and hotel bookings etc because I needed to know exactly which dates I crossed which borders .. anyway off topic, a huge pain of course, but an easy task on Fastmail, where as my laptop gets brought to its heels every time I have to open my gmail inbox. Oh and you can set gmail to forward everything to your Fastmail. You can even have it land in a separate folder to keep it all neat. Lately I've had issues sending from my gmail account on Fastmail, I think google changed their security practices a while ago..

urda 8y ago

I already manage most of my e-mail via filters and just my plain old Mail.app. My current plan is to go back to Thunderbird honestly for my Desktop OS needs.

me551ah 8y ago

The new gmail is also buggy. 1. Items will randomly not open and I need to force refresh the page to open a particular email. 2. Search sometimes returns 0 results and clicking on search again seems to work.