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I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my bigge

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

phreack 8y ago
This would be a great option. Maybe Google could get on that, but they're more likely to axe the basic Html version considering their latest trends.
- sova 8y ago
  I shudder to think it! And shudder again at the 70% likelihood you are prescient with your comment
  - misterman0 8y ago
    For the first time in many years I've stumbled upon a word I have never ever heard before, not in a movie, not in any literature, nowhere. Thank you. It seems HN has utility after all.
    - josteink 8y ago
      > not in any literature It would seem you are way over due as far as reading Frank Herbert’s Dune-series goes.
      - TheAceOfHearts 8y ago
        A bit off-topic, but Dune also gave us this magnificent quote: > I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.
    - sova 8y ago
      Happy to share and partake in the natural refulgence of the variegated English language with you.
      - misterman0 8y ago
        I like you're speak. But what does it mean, to shudder?
        dyukqu 8y ago
        https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shudder https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shudder
        Narishma 8y ago
        Here it is used in a somewhat popular song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oQ8sNSYXmQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oQ8sNSYXmQ
        sova 8y ago
        Shuddering is an involuntary convulsion that typically occurs when something is unconscionable or otherwise triggers a physionomic reaction that cannot be helped [meaning, it happens autonomously, of its own accord, based on the immediately preceding data]. You can't really shudder someone, it doesn't make any sense as a transitive verb, and yet the idiomatic usage in English has landed on "I shudder to X" where X is a thinking-pondering-considering verb such as "I shudder to think." or "I shudder at the prospect of his presidency" it's usually used to denote a non-positive feeling with the topic matter and when people actually shudder in real life, we do so with a sound exclamation under our breath such as "euuu" as your shoulders, arms, and potentially more gently vibrates or wiggles to indicate the effect being felt and received. Human bodies shudder, and we typically denote body with "I" but it is a distinction between thinking self and bodily self, this shudder idea, because we typically don't use things such as "I was shuddering all night x" that's just weird and would make someone think you experienced a seizing episode. Not sure how this made it into English. In unrelated matters of similar linguistic domain, the Japanese have an expression "made my stomach stand" which is an expression to indicate "anger arose" ... not sure how that came to be either!
    - adamrt 8y ago
      Funny, that happened to me this week as well. With the same word!
      - misterman0 8y ago
        Was it him again?
      - curiousgal 8y ago
        Good ol' Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.
pixelrevision 8y ago
Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.
- jcousins 8y ago
  I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.
  - tonmoy 8y ago
    I recently made the transition and it wasn’t that bad. My brain adjusted to hitting archive instead of done. And the gmail app archives when you swipe right. The categories needed a little manual adjusting, but works good enough after the tweaking
    - tempestn 8y ago
      You can actually even customize what the right and left swipes do. I have left for mark as read and right for archive.
  - joshuamorton 8y ago
    I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.
    - senoroink 8y ago
      > The done button is the archive button True, but the point of Inbox was to treat your email like a todo list. By definition, it is the same, but training millions of Inbox users that this is new behavior makes it hard to grok. > If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are. Every Inbox is probably using bundles whether they remember or not. It becomes incredibly powerful when you have a trip coming up and your flight, hotel, rental car, etc. is all bundled up together.
curiousgal 8y ago
Seeing how slow the Standard view is, I'd pay good money for such a CSS theme.
awiesenhofer 8y ago
Reminds me of Helvetimail - I wonder if it still exists somewhere and works with basic HTML gmail? https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-gmail-skin.html https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-... Edit: found the original CSS on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefrichter.com/helvetimail.css https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefr...
- stevewillows 8y ago
  This is the latest copy I could find -- https://web.archive.org/web/20140521210452/http://www.josefrichter.com/helvetimail/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140521210452/http://www.josefr... Sadly, it doesn't work. The CSS used for the simple Gmail is remarkably minimal to a fault for folks like us. edit: here's an extremely basic Dracula theme you can use with Stylish. As a disclaimer, this is roughly ten minutes worth of work -- I don't doubt that I missed the other 80%. https://pastebin.com/raw/srPD5E5Z https://pastebin.com/raw/srPD5E5Z and literally the invert of that https://pastebin.com/raw/enmLB3Wz https://pastebin.com/raw/enmLB3Wz It's definitely not pretty, but with a little time it wouldn't be too difficult to spruce it up.
  - stevewillows 8y ago
    I can't edit my comment, but if you're interested in trying out a Dracula theme, check out https://github.com/hello-party/Gmail-Basic-HTML-Dracula https://github.com/hello-party/Gmail-Basic-HTML-Dracula Its still not perfect, but it does show potential for better themes for the basic HTML.
codeulike 8y ago
Basic Html version is here by the way, everyone: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h Its really really fast. I'm using it all the time now, and only dropping back into 'standard' mode if I need to do fancy formatting - which is rare

phreack 8y ago

This would be a great option. Maybe Google could get on that, but they're more likely to axe the basic Html version considering their latest trends.

sova 8y ago
I shudder to think it! And shudder again at the 70% likelihood you are prescient with your comment
- misterman0 8y ago
  For the first time in many years I've stumbled upon a word I have never ever heard before, not in a movie, not in any literature, nowhere. Thank you. It seems HN has utility after all.
  - josteink 8y ago
    > not in any literature It would seem you are way over due as far as reading Frank Herbert’s Dune-series goes.
    - TheAceOfHearts 8y ago
      A bit off-topic, but Dune also gave us this magnificent quote: > I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.
  - sova 8y ago
    Happy to share and partake in the natural refulgence of the variegated English language with you.
    - misterman0 8y ago
      I like you're speak. But what does it mean, to shudder?
      - dyukqu 8y ago
        https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shudder https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/shudder
      - Narishma 8y ago
        Here it is used in a somewhat popular song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oQ8sNSYXmQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oQ8sNSYXmQ
      - sova 8y ago
        Shuddering is an involuntary convulsion that typically occurs when something is unconscionable or otherwise triggers a physionomic reaction that cannot be helped [meaning, it happens autonomously, of its own accord, based on the immediately preceding data]. You can't really shudder someone, it doesn't make any sense as a transitive verb, and yet the idiomatic usage in English has landed on "I shudder to X" where X is a thinking-pondering-considering verb such as "I shudder to think." or "I shudder at the prospect of his presidency" it's usually used to denote a non-positive feeling with the topic matter and when people actually shudder in real life, we do so with a sound exclamation under our breath such as "euuu" as your shoulders, arms, and potentially more gently vibrates or wiggles to indicate the effect being felt and received. Human bodies shudder, and we typically denote body with "I" but it is a distinction between thinking self and bodily self, this shudder idea, because we typically don't use things such as "I was shuddering all night x" that's just weird and would make someone think you experienced a seizing episode. Not sure how this made it into English. In unrelated matters of similar linguistic domain, the Japanese have an expression "made my stomach stand" which is an expression to indicate "anger arose" ... not sure how that came to be either!
  - adamrt 8y ago
    Funny, that happened to me this week as well. With the same word!
    - misterman0 8y ago
      Was it him again?
    - curiousgal 8y ago
      Good ol' Baader-Meinhof phenomenon.

pixelrevision 8y ago

Google is becoming really frustrating. I am trying to transition off inbox because they are killing it. The performance of the new gmail is miserable though.

jcousins 8y ago
I will desperately miss the clean inbox paradigm when Inbox goes. I am struggling to go back to the old way of managing my email with no done button and poorly configured categories. I feel like I have to do it now or I won't adjust in time for Inbox being sunsetted early next year.
- tonmoy 8y ago
  I recently made the transition and it wasn’t that bad. My brain adjusted to hitting archive instead of done. And the gmail app archives when you swipe right. The categories needed a little manual adjusting, but works good enough after the tweaking
  - tempestn 8y ago
    You can actually even customize what the right and left swipes do. I have left for mark as read and right for archive.
- joshuamorton 8y ago
  I'm a bit curious, what features are missing? The done button is the archive button in normal Gmail, and I think the new Gmail has the magical categories, although I don't use them. If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are.
  - senoroink 8y ago
    > The done button is the archive button True, but the point of Inbox was to treat your email like a todo list. By definition, it is the same, but training millions of Inbox users that this is new behavior makes it hard to grok. > If you're using bundles, that's the one big feature that isn't ported, but it doesn't immidiately sound like you are. Every Inbox is probably using bundles whether they remember or not. It becomes incredibly powerful when you have a trip coming up and your flight, hotel, rental car, etc. is all bundled up together.

curiousgal 8y ago

Seeing how slow the Standard view is, I'd pay good money for such a CSS theme.

awiesenhofer 8y ago

Reminds me of Helvetimail - I wonder if it still exists somewhere and works with basic HTML gmail? https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-gmail-skin.html https://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/09/helvetimail-a-minimalist-... Edit: found the original CSS on archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefrichter.com/helvetimail.css https://web.archive.org/web/20110817055720/http://www.josefr...

stevewillows 8y ago
This is the latest copy I could find -- https://web.archive.org/web/20140521210452/http://www.josefrichter.com/helvetimail/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140521210452/http://www.josefr... Sadly, it doesn't work. The CSS used for the simple Gmail is remarkably minimal to a fault for folks like us. edit: here's an extremely basic Dracula theme you can use with Stylish. As a disclaimer, this is roughly ten minutes worth of work -- I don't doubt that I missed the other 80%. https://pastebin.com/raw/srPD5E5Z https://pastebin.com/raw/srPD5E5Z and literally the invert of that https://pastebin.com/raw/enmLB3Wz https://pastebin.com/raw/enmLB3Wz It's definitely not pretty, but with a little time it wouldn't be too difficult to spruce it up.
- stevewillows 8y ago
  I can't edit my comment, but if you're interested in trying out a Dracula theme, check out https://github.com/hello-party/Gmail-Basic-HTML-Dracula https://github.com/hello-party/Gmail-Basic-HTML-Dracula Its still not perfect, but it does show potential for better themes for the basic HTML.

codeulike 8y ago

Basic Html version is here by the way, everyone: https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html&zy=h Its really really fast. I'm using it all the time now, and only dropping back into 'standard' mode if I need to do fancy formatting - which is rare