This conversation is going nowhere. You clearly believe that it follows from the fact of being wealthy that you have a greater claim on collective resources, e

This conversation is going nowhere. You clearly believe that it follows from the fact of being wealthy that you have a greater claim on collective resources, either because you manifest greater virtue than the poor, or because you have simply done more good. I don't believe that people with wealth deserve that wealth in any deep sense - because people are who they are due to external forces, genetic and social. I also don't believe that greed, acquistiveness, etc., are social virtues. Most importantly, I don't think society should be founded upon productivism (accumulating as much wealth as possible) and hierarchy (the wealthy are better and have more claims on social goods than the poor). Capitalism is based on demeaning and toxic hierarchies and inequalities, where everyone works nearly all of the time (except for those who don't work at all) in order to create masses of unnecessary commodities, that are slowly destroying the planet. I cannot credit the view that wealth per se is good, or that we should bow before those who are lucky and oblivious enough to stand at the top of this scheme of things.