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Couldn't agree more. GCP has focused on building the core services right and making everything work together seamlessly. I would hate to seem them go in the dir

Couldn't agree more. GCP has focused on building the core services right and making everything work together seamlessly. I would hate to seem them go in the direction of AWS/Azure where they build a zillion different "products" but every one is only 80% of great.

threeseed 8y ago
I disagree that GCP offers better core services than AWS and in areas like Data Science or Serverless GCP has almost nothing to offer. And one of the advantages of having a zillion different products approach is that you can trust AWS to grow with you and improve their products over time. Same can't be said of GCP.
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- romed 8y ago
  Google App Engine is the OG serverless cloud product. Ten years old.
- halbritt 8y ago
  You disagree, but why? Compute is compute. Both providers offer similar instance classes for the most part. GCP offers sustained-use discounts, in addition to committed use discounts that match up to reserve instances, plus billing by the minute. Spot instances can be hugely variable, but cheaper than prremptible. Preemptible offers predictable costs with a guarantee that the instance will go away every 24 hours (and come back). Network IO is way better. Inter-region networking comes for free. GCP ssd persistent disk lands between AWS GP2 and IO1 and gives way more predictable performance. Local disks can be attached to any instance and end up giving similar performance and being way cheaper than I2 and I3 instances.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Compute is just compute, but if all you care about is running VMs, and not taking advantage of the managed services, what is using Azure/AWS/GCP buying you? You’re not saving money on server management, you’re not moving faster and you’re spending more than on a colo.
    - halbritt 8y ago
      Didn’t we cover this in another thread?
      - scarface74 8y ago
        Probably so. Wait until the next post comes up about “serverless” and someone mentions that there are servers involved....
        halbritt 8y ago
        But you said it was serverless!
  - Buge 8y ago
    > with a guarantee that the instance will go away every 24 hours (and come back) There is no guarantee that the instance will come back. And it can be shut down in under 24 hours. Not that that's a problem compared to AWS or Azure. >Because preemptible VMs have no availability guarantees, you should design your system under the assumption that any or all of your Compute Engine instances might be preempted and become unavailable. There are no guarantees as to when new instances become available. https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/preemptible-vms#best_practices https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/preem...
    - halbritt 8y ago
      Your correction is accurate.

threeseed 8y ago

I disagree that GCP offers better core services than AWS and in areas like Data Science or Serverless GCP has almost nothing to offer. And one of the advantages of having a zillion different products approach is that you can trust AWS to grow with you and improve their products over time. Same can't be said of GCP.

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romed 8y ago
Google App Engine is the OG serverless cloud product. Ten years old.
halbritt 8y ago
You disagree, but why? Compute is compute. Both providers offer similar instance classes for the most part. GCP offers sustained-use discounts, in addition to committed use discounts that match up to reserve instances, plus billing by the minute. Spot instances can be hugely variable, but cheaper than prremptible. Preemptible offers predictable costs with a guarantee that the instance will go away every 24 hours (and come back). Network IO is way better. Inter-region networking comes for free. GCP ssd persistent disk lands between AWS GP2 and IO1 and gives way more predictable performance. Local disks can be attached to any instance and end up giving similar performance and being way cheaper than I2 and I3 instances.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Compute is just compute, but if all you care about is running VMs, and not taking advantage of the managed services, what is using Azure/AWS/GCP buying you? You’re not saving money on server management, you’re not moving faster and you’re spending more than on a colo.
  - halbritt 8y ago
    Didn’t we cover this in another thread?
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Probably so. Wait until the next post comes up about “serverless” and someone mentions that there are servers involved....
      - halbritt 8y ago
        But you said it was serverless!
- Buge 8y ago
  > with a guarantee that the instance will go away every 24 hours (and come back) There is no guarantee that the instance will come back. And it can be shut down in under 24 hours. Not that that's a problem compared to AWS or Azure. >Because preemptible VMs have no availability guarantees, you should design your system under the assumption that any or all of your Compute Engine instances might be preempted and become unavailable. There are no guarantees as to when new instances become available. https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/preemptible-vms#best_practices https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/docs/how-to/preem...
  - halbritt 8y ago
    Your correction is accurate.