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and I guess delayed signalling implies mental time travel and consciousness, which being special and mysterious to us implies an expensive process - but maybe c
by vbuwivbiu 8y ago
and I guess delayed signalling implies mental time travel and consciousness, which being special and mysterious to us implies an expensive process - but maybe consciousness isn't expensive, and maybe it can be of only certain discrete things (like whatever bees might be conscious of).
Dogs like yours are undoubtedly conscious.
- subroutine 8y agoYea, I agree. It's plausible. To clarify, I'm not at all saying bees aren't capable of conveying learned information. My position is that you, me, my dog, birds, bees, orangutans... we all seem to have this capacity. In fact, it seems more like a ubiquitous capacity, than a uniquely human capacity. The authors of this paper don't agree though; instead they are promulgating the idea that "Orangutans are the only great apes besides humans to ‘talk’ about the past". Which directly implies that Chimps and Bonobos never refer to learned information in their conspecific communications. Maybe they don't engage in delayed warning calls after exposure to a predator, for whatever adaptive reason. Nevertheless, I'd bet the farm Chimps refer to episodic or declarative memories is some way/shape/form in some instances of communication (and I'll double down, given the criteria is only 2-minutes elapsed time since the referenced event took place).