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I currently use this on my Surface because it's more touch-friendly than Gmail's website, but it looks like I'll be moving on. Any recommendations for a touch-

I currently use this on my Surface because it's more touch-friendly than Gmail's website, but it looks like I'll be moving on. Any recommendations for a touch-friendly (i.e. must be UWP) mail app for Windows?

WorldMaker 8y ago
The latest Gmail revamp is more touch-friendly than it used to be, especially in Edge (despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome). The article suggests that the Mail app will never have ads for Office 365 users. Office 365 Home is often a good deal for a Surface owner anyway, as it boosts your OneDrive space, and gives you up to date copies of all the Office programs, and stuff like that.
- robocat 8y ago
  > despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome Fuck Edge touch support - they don't support the event API used by Safari/Chrome, instead you need to use an MS specific touch API. I support touch on IE11/Edge (because our business made a bet on Windows Phone) but I have wasted an obscene amount of time to do so (we have very few windows phone/laptop touch users). I hate supporting Edge more than IE11 - weird bugs and continual problems with the debugger and touch support.
  - WorldMaker 8y ago
    Are you talking about Pointer Events versus Touch Events? Edge supports both (and has for some time). IE supports only Pointer Events. (There is a polyfill for Touch Events on IE: https://github.com/WebReflection/ie-touch https://github.com/WebReflection/ie-touch) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Touch_events#Browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Touch_event... https://caniuse.com/#feat=pointer https://caniuse.com/#feat=pointer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Pointer_events https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Pointer_eve... Both are W3C recommended standards. Pointer Events has more capabilities, and an easier abstraction for multi-modal input (ie, mouse and touch, or touch and pen). So I often see Pointer Events recommended over Touch Events if you can use Pointer Events. (React recently moved to recommending Pointer Events, as one example.) The big reason not to use Pointer Events is that Safari/WebKit has lagged far behind on Pointer Event adoption (it is finally in experimental preview in Safari, years after Firefox and Chrome/Blink, and seems to be part of the increasing Blink/WebKit split). There is a Pointer Event Polyfill for Safari (and other older browsers that support Touch Events but not Pointer Events): https://github.com/jquery/PEP https://github.com/jquery/PEP
- amyjess 8y ago
  Hmm... I'm an Office 365 customer, so I guess I'm not getting ads then. Good. Also, I love Edge to death (it's the only browser I'll use when I'm on my Surface), but I forgot another reason why I don't want to deal with Gmail in the browser: Gmail doesn't let me have my personal and work email open at the same time.

WorldMaker 8y ago

The latest Gmail revamp is more touch-friendly than it used to be, especially in Edge (despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome). The article suggests that the Mail app will never have ads for Office 365 users. Office 365 Home is often a good deal for a Surface owner anyway, as it boosts your OneDrive space, and gives you up to date copies of all the Office programs, and stuff like that.

robocat 8y ago
> despite Gmail's increasingly obnoxious insistence that you should only use Chrome Fuck Edge touch support - they don't support the event API used by Safari/Chrome, instead you need to use an MS specific touch API. I support touch on IE11/Edge (because our business made a bet on Windows Phone) but I have wasted an obscene amount of time to do so (we have very few windows phone/laptop touch users). I hate supporting Edge more than IE11 - weird bugs and continual problems with the debugger and touch support.
- WorldMaker 8y ago
  Are you talking about Pointer Events versus Touch Events? Edge supports both (and has for some time). IE supports only Pointer Events. (There is a polyfill for Touch Events on IE: https://github.com/WebReflection/ie-touch https://github.com/WebReflection/ie-touch) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Touch_events#Browser_compatibility https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Touch_event... https://caniuse.com/#feat=pointer https://caniuse.com/#feat=pointer https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Pointer_events https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Pointer_eve... Both are W3C recommended standards. Pointer Events has more capabilities, and an easier abstraction for multi-modal input (ie, mouse and touch, or touch and pen). So I often see Pointer Events recommended over Touch Events if you can use Pointer Events. (React recently moved to recommending Pointer Events, as one example.) The big reason not to use Pointer Events is that Safari/WebKit has lagged far behind on Pointer Event adoption (it is finally in experimental preview in Safari, years after Firefox and Chrome/Blink, and seems to be part of the increasing Blink/WebKit split). There is a Pointer Event Polyfill for Safari (and other older browsers that support Touch Events but not Pointer Events): https://github.com/jquery/PEP https://github.com/jquery/PEP
amyjess 8y ago
Hmm... I'm an Office 365 customer, so I guess I'm not getting ads then. Good. Also, I love Edge to death (it's the only browser I'll use when I'm on my Surface), but I forgot another reason why I don't want to deal with Gmail in the browser: Gmail doesn't let me have my personal and work email open at the same time.