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> "I've done it, actually, and do it frequently - as an Orthodox Christian, our Nativity Fast just started and we eat beans and lentils, and I lose weight after

by nonbel 8y ago

> "I've done it, actually, and do it frequently - as an Orthodox Christian, our Nativity Fast just started and we eat beans and lentils, and I lose weight after each fast, and I never feel hungry." I doubt you really feel that comfortable because then why wouldnt you eat like this all the time? Just that you are referring to it as a "fast" tells me you are craving food. If you ate less because you felt satiated, you wouldnt refer to it as a fast. I don't even know what you are talking about regarding overeating fat. My experience is just cut out the grains and sugars and eat whatever else you want. If you crave fat, then you eat it. There is no overeating involved. That is the entire point, if you keep your carbs low enough you do not want to overeat anything. There is no self-control involved, in fact you need to sometimes force yourself to feel like eating for social/etc reasons. There is also no need to purchase "fancy fats", you do probably have to prepare your own food though since sugar is added to everything prepared for you. >"All these diets ignore the most recent scientific discovery - epigenetics!" This is hardly recent, and while I'm sure it has some sort of relationship to a persons optimal diet, no one has any idea what that is.

nikolay 8y ago
You have no idea what you're talking about, honestly. Our family does not use sugar at all. And, no, I don't feel hunger and 90% of what you mean by "hunger" is habitual, not real hunger caused by ghrelin. When we fast, and it's unfortunate that English has such a misrepresenting word, we don't get tempted by meat and dairy. I am not supporting vegetarianism and veganism, on the contrary, but I don't think the meat overeating habits are healthy and the data shows it. For example, upping your growth factors, overloading yourself with iron, eating charred meat is proven to be detrimental to health. Now everybody's lining up to buy bone broth not knowing that bones often accumulate heavy metals like lead and America is polluted with lead, but that's not just all. Anyway, my point was that people should eat quality foods aligned with their genetic and epigenetic profile, use the least possible processing and stick to traditional cooking methods. Don't eat too much carbs, don't eat too much fats, don't eat too much meat - this is the optimal strategy at this point as I've been following diets for nearly 20 years and there's no perfect on except the balanced real-foods one!
- nonbel 8y ago
  >"upping your growth factors, overloading yourself with iron, eating charred meat is proven to be detrimental to health." All I did is stop eating bread and preparing my own food so there was no sugar in it. So this extreme diet you are talking about seems like a strawman to me. >"people should eat quality foods aligned with their genetic and epigenetic profile" No one knows what this would be. > "Don't eat too much carbs, don't eat too much fats, don't eat too much meat" Which your body lets you know via a satiated feeling without gaining undesirable weight. "Too much carbs" seems to be over 50-100 g/day for most people. If it wasn't, they wouldn't eat more than was healthy.

by nonbel 8y ago

nikolay 8y ago

You have no idea what you're talking about, honestly. Our family does not use sugar at all. And, no, I don't feel hunger and 90% of what you mean by "hunger" is habitual, not real hunger caused by ghrelin. When we fast, and it's unfortunate that English has such a misrepresenting word, we don't get tempted by meat and dairy. I am not supporting vegetarianism and veganism, on the contrary, but I don't think the meat overeating habits are healthy and the data shows it. For example, upping your growth factors, overloading yourself with iron, eating charred meat is proven to be detrimental to health. Now everybody's lining up to buy bone broth not knowing that bones often accumulate heavy metals like lead and America is polluted with lead, but that's not just all. Anyway, my point was that people should eat quality foods aligned with their genetic and epigenetic profile, use the least possible processing and stick to traditional cooking methods. Don't eat too much carbs, don't eat too much fats, don't eat too much meat - this is the optimal strategy at this point as I've been following diets for nearly 20 years and there's no perfect on except the balanced real-foods one!

nonbel 8y ago
>"upping your growth factors, overloading yourself with iron, eating charred meat is proven to be detrimental to health." All I did is stop eating bread and preparing my own food so there was no sugar in it. So this extreme diet you are talking about seems like a strawman to me. >"people should eat quality foods aligned with their genetic and epigenetic profile" No one knows what this would be. > "Don't eat too much carbs, don't eat too much fats, don't eat too much meat" Which your body lets you know via a satiated feeling without gaining undesirable weight. "Too much carbs" seems to be over 50-100 g/day for most people. If it wasn't, they wouldn't eat more than was healthy.