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Recruiters - not candidates - are the ones who blast poorly targeted spam. They should show us the money first, not the other way around.

cpfohl 8y ago
That wasn't a defense. Sorry if that was unclear: it's like sending ridiculous scams to weed out the not gullible ones. If you reply by phone it means you actually want a job.
bunderbunder 8y ago
I don't think it works that way from their perspective. For boiler room recruiters in particular, they maximize their return on effort by blasting email like that. They don't want to waste time on people who are content with their current job and might be all goldilocks-y about potential new employers. They want to be talking to people who want a new job so badly that they're willing to respond to spammy recruiter emails. Source: At a former job, I was work buddies with a guy from the in-house recruiting department, and he'd tell me stories about just how different his job there was from his previous job at one of those firms.
- deathanatos 8y ago
  This might be true, but I still think there's a market for people who might not be content, but aren't so malcontent that they want to go through these recruiters that can't get basic information like the name of the company, what the company does, how much it pays, etc. in an email. Heck, I would think that even if you're mass mailing a copy/pasted template, having a good hook in there would get more hits — and that's perhaps what irks the rest of us. We'd like to be hooked… but this is like a bad late night commercial, and we're expecting something more mid-day and professional (but still a commercial). These recruiters sure they're not sitting on a local maxima?
  - bunderbunder 8y ago
    There is. And there are recruiting firms that specialize in that market, too. I've gone through one to get a job before, and it was a great experience. You aren't going to encounter them nearly as often, though, precisely because they aren't just spamming indiscriminately. Also because there are fewer of them recruiting for fewer positions. The hiring company needs to be willing to pay for that level of service.

cpfohl 8y ago

That wasn't a defense. Sorry if that was unclear: it's like sending ridiculous scams to weed out the not gullible ones. If you reply by phone it means you actually want a job.

bunderbunder 8y ago

I don't think it works that way from their perspective. For boiler room recruiters in particular, they maximize their return on effort by blasting email like that. They don't want to waste time on people who are content with their current job and might be all goldilocks-y about potential new employers. They want to be talking to people who want a new job so badly that they're willing to respond to spammy recruiter emails. Source: At a former job, I was work buddies with a guy from the in-house recruiting department, and he'd tell me stories about just how different his job there was from his previous job at one of those firms.

deathanatos 8y ago
This might be true, but I still think there's a market for people who might not be content, but aren't so malcontent that they want to go through these recruiters that can't get basic information like the name of the company, what the company does, how much it pays, etc. in an email. Heck, I would think that even if you're mass mailing a copy/pasted template, having a good hook in there would get more hits — and that's perhaps what irks the rest of us. We'd like to be hooked… but this is like a bad late night commercial, and we're expecting something more mid-day and professional (but still a commercial). These recruiters sure they're not sitting on a local maxima?
- bunderbunder 8y ago
  There is. And there are recruiting firms that specialize in that market, too. I've gone through one to get a job before, and it was a great experience. You aren't going to encounter them nearly as often, though, precisely because they aren't just spamming indiscriminately. Also because there are fewer of them recruiting for fewer positions. The hiring company needs to be willing to pay for that level of service.