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It would be overriden by an extradition to the US.

by yayana 8y ago

ben_w 8y ago
Why do you think extradition from Sweden to the USA was more likely than extradition from the UK to the USA?
- yayana 8y ago
  He allegedly broke pretty specific Swedish sex law which probably doesn't have an equivalent in the UK.. In normal extradition treaties, being in the UK was safe from being in anyone's custody which is the ideal for no possibility of the US starting an extradition. No one can know the specifics of the US' soft power and assets except the US, and even then only in some abstract collective sense.
  - ben_w 8y ago
    > He allegedly broke pretty specific Swedish sex law which probably doesn't have an equivalent in the UK.. It does. IIRC this was specifically referenced by one of the judges. Even if not explicitly mentioned, by my reading the accusations included the following offences from the 2003 Sexual Offences Act: * Rape * Assault by penetration * Sexual assault With at least one reference to section 75/2/d “Evidential presumptions about consent” Now I’m not a lawyer, but actual lawyers did in fact argue this case and I’m going with what they said.
    - yayana 8y ago
      Unless you think Assange is an international legal expert I don't really get your point.. His behavior seemed rational for a man who kicked a bee hive unless you don't believe in bees.
      - ben_w 8y ago
        My point is that your claim was false. There is nothing obscure about the law, the (alleged) acts were also offences in the UK. Further to your new points, he had legal representation from human multiple rights specialists including from a lawyer with the title of Queen’s Council. Skipping bail also cost his supporters £93,500. He was demonstrably not short of favours. No, I don’t see his behaviour as “rational”. Rather I see it as arrogant, a person who thinks he knows more than he does, the kind of person who ends up the subject of a notalwaysright.com post. (Unlike Manning and Snowden, about whom I am rather positive.)

It would be overriden by an extradition to the US.

by yayana 8y ago

It would be overriden by an extradition to the US.

ben_w 8y ago

Why do you think extradition from Sweden to the USA was more likely than extradition from the UK to the USA?

yayana 8y ago
He allegedly broke pretty specific Swedish sex law which probably doesn't have an equivalent in the UK.. In normal extradition treaties, being in the UK was safe from being in anyone's custody which is the ideal for no possibility of the US starting an extradition. No one can know the specifics of the US' soft power and assets except the US, and even then only in some abstract collective sense.
- ben_w 8y ago
  > He allegedly broke pretty specific Swedish sex law which probably doesn't have an equivalent in the UK.. It does. IIRC this was specifically referenced by one of the judges. Even if not explicitly mentioned, by my reading the accusations included the following offences from the 2003 Sexual Offences Act: * Rape * Assault by penetration * Sexual assault With at least one reference to section 75/2/d “Evidential presumptions about consent” Now I’m not a lawyer, but actual lawyers did in fact argue this case and I’m going with what they said.
  - yayana 8y ago
    Unless you think Assange is an international legal expert I don't really get your point.. His behavior seemed rational for a man who kicked a bee hive unless you don't believe in bees.
    - ben_w 8y ago
      My point is that your claim was false. There is nothing obscure about the law, the (alleged) acts were also offences in the UK. Further to your new points, he had legal representation from human multiple rights specialists including from a lawyer with the title of Queen’s Council. Skipping bail also cost his supporters £93,500. He was demonstrably not short of favours. No, I don’t see his behaviour as “rational”. Rather I see it as arrogant, a person who thinks he knows more than he does, the kind of person who ends up the subject of a notalwaysright.com post. (Unlike Manning and Snowden, about whom I am rather positive.)